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re: Why is being a "white nationalist" bad?
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:21 am to MullenBoys
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:21 am to MullenBoys
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Many of these organizations were founded during segregation when blacks weren't allowed to join similar mostly-white groups.
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They prove it all the time with Black Entertainment Television (BET). Miss Black USA pageant. 100 Black men of America. National Association of Black Journalists. National council of negro women. National Black MBA association. Congressional Black Caucus. Black Women in Sports foundation. African American Policy Forum. African Civil Society organization. The Black Movie Awards. Want me to go on? Go look up the list, you can spend all day. Does not sound inclusive to me one bit. God help you if you have a "White actors awards."
Many of these organizations were founded during segregation when blacks weren't allowed to join similar mostly-white groups.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:22 am to jcolding41
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I have a question for libs. Would a Latino nationalist or black nationalist be as bad as a white nationalist? If not please explain.
Yes. Anyone who preaches segregation in a nation which is great due to diversity...since day one...is a moron. It is nationalism that keeps Europe from being a USA....they hate one another and base all of life's decisions on what kind of white person you are....and they exported that shite to the US but opportunities were so great here that only losers held on to it...as those opportunities get further and further apart you find more and more disgruntled losers returning to their suspicion and hate and bigotry...
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:25 am to germandawg
Sounds like you are one sad individual.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:26 am to jcolding41
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Nationalism is defined as "loyalty and devotion to one's nation" (Merriam Webster) please tell me how this is a bad thing. And if you say being white is bad then you're just stupid.
The topic is not being a nationalist, it's being a white nationalist, which means loyalty to the white nation. It means whites above all else. White supremacy. Klan. It ain't anything else so you can stop arguing your bullshite about how it's all cool and neutral.
About 25 years ago the white racists got the brilliant idea of saying crap like "I'm not racist, I'm racial. There's a difference." No there isn't.
But it is cool how y'all notice a new word or two every twenty five years or so. Evolution is a slow process.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:27 am to MullenBoys
quote:I missed your post, but the fact TJGator1215 got 6 UVs here for his stupidity is disappointing
Finally someone with facts which only verify what I suggested.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:29 am to northshorebamaman
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I think they're equally bad as the end result for all three is segregation.
There's been a few threads on this. Being white and a nationalist is essentially just "America First". I understand how it gets confused but when you tell people you are a "white nationalist", they're probably going to assume some things about you that you didn't intend. And just to be clear, I don't think there's anything wrong with being white and a nationalist.
The word 'white' in ' white nationalist' does not describe the nationalist, it describes the nation.
If being a white nationalist is essentially America first why do you need the white part? Because it is about a WHITE America...a nation that has NEVER existed. People of many cultures contributed to this country from day one....it is the thing that is truly exceptional about the United States.
By the way it isn't about America first because about half of Americans are not white. I would also be curious how many ""Merica first" frickers in the US are all about increased military spending and cutting domestic spending.....the fact of the matter is that WHITE Nationalists in the United States hate America...they love the idea of an America that never existed...and would gladly make this nation "great again" in a manner that was never great and never actually existed except in their fricking warped minds....
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:29 am to NC_Tigah
quote:His lack of nuance on Christ's ethnic markers is definitely the most disappointing thing in this thread.
I missed your post, but the fact TJGator1215 got 6 UVs here for his stupidity is disappointing
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:31 am to mahdragonz
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A white nationalist means white people are better and the nation would be better if white people were acknowledged as superior than any non-white citizen
No - that is what YOU think it means = or at least that is what you try to convince your ignorant minions that it means.
In fact, any rational, factual declaration that avoids the lie you deliver to your voter plantation is interpreted as an attack on ethnicity.
YOU are the ones who hold non-whites to be inferior - YOU want then to believe that the 'white devils' will put them 'back in chanins' without YOUR defense = all they have to do is sit on the porch, create riots when called on, vote DEM, and look for ways to be offended over something. <== that is your legacy.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:32 am to themunch
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Sounds like you are one sad individual.
Because I am capable of discerning the truth about white nationalists? Knowledge can make one sad...and to be honest it is sad to see someone who would tie a black man to a pickup truck and drag him to death as a form of entertainment because anytime 2 lives are wasted in such a manner it is sad....but generally speaking I am pretty satisfied, thank you very much!
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:35 am to themunch
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I am white and I am a patriot and I certainly am not racist.
good for you my friend..by definition then you are not a white nationalist. If you have been identifying as such you have been mistaken.
There is nothing in the world with your being white and a patriot.....now, on the other hand, if you think the US would be better off if everyone who wasn't white, male, and christian would just sit down and shut the frick up and listen to the white men then you are a racist. There is nothing inherently evil about racism...it is human nature to be weary of people who are different than you....it can no more be denied than breathing...but refusing to acknowledge this trait is a gateway psychosis...continue to pretend it doesn't exist and you will soon be crazier than a shithouse rat...
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:39 am to germandawg
quote:Too many words. White Nationalist is a specific term with a specific connotation. It was coined by White Nationalists to describe individuals who place a premium on [white] racial identity and the cultivation of a nation (or nations) by and for white people. White people only. It's based in large part in the principle of 14 words and actively advocates sectionalism and nationalism as a means to prevent miscegenation. Like racialism, of which racism is an actual subset, White Nationalism in practice is a more acceptable (but not really) expression of White Supremacy. And not surprisingly, in this thread defending a term which was was coined with specific purpose when some of these rejects were still in pampers, a few have expressed sentiments of outright racial supremacy.
germandawg
Does anyone here even google?
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:40 am to jcolding41
Wow the threads here aren't even trying to hide their racism anymore
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:40 am to germandawg
I understand history and all that lied before us in our country. I however choose to move forward in this life to make things better between myself and all those around me. I do not quest for fear of any race or ethnic group. I do not quest for fear of any religion I am not a part of and especially the one I am a part of. The term 'white nationalist' is being used to describe right side political supporters. That is what is wrong with this term. I do not condone nor agree with any sort of segregation of societies no matter which group is bringing it.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:48 am to Navytiger74
quote:100% correct!
White Nationalism in practice is a more acceptable (but not really) expression of White Supremacy.
The problem is "White Nationalist" is a term so heavily misapplied in the MSM, and directed at folks like Bannon, that people assume it can't actually mean what it does. So I assume (perhaps naively) defense of the term is being conflated with defense of its targets.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:50 am to germandawg
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If being a white nationalist is essentially America first why do you need the white part?
Because both are being attacked from different directions.
"white guilt" has nothing to do with being an American patriot.
"open borders" has nothing to do with being white.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:54 am to Navytiger74
quote:To drive that home, one need only substitute the term Aryan for White to see where this goes. Aryan Nationalism, is in essence the same term, yet people understand it to be what it is.
White Nationalism in practice is a more acceptable (but not really) expression of White Supremacy.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:58 am to NC_Tigah
Thanks for defining the term.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:00 am to TBoy
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The topic is not being a nationalist, it's being a white nationalist, which means loyalty to the white nation. It means whites above all else
I love how progressives feel that they can combine an inoccuos word "white", and a positive word "Nationalist", and make it something hateful and shameful.
Let me try it:
TBoy is a cocksucker. No, that doesn't work, damnit.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:08 am to ChineseBandit58
I love how you guys are acting like you dont know what an adjective is. If you are only talking about American nationalism and you happen to be white then thr "white" part is a meaningless descriptor. However, "white nationalism" is clearly a different term based on simple English.
But hey, its no skin off my back... Go around calling yourselves white nationalists. See how that works for ya. Good luck taking it back.
Damn you folks are ignorant as hell.
But hey, its no skin off my back... Go around calling yourselves white nationalists. See how that works for ya. Good luck taking it back.
Damn you folks are ignorant as hell.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:09 am to Vols&Shaft83
quote:If it's innocuous, why use it. Nationalist should suffice. The fact is "white" may seem innocuous -- if one is white. However if one is amongst the ~40% of non-white Americans, it is not so innocuous.
I love how progressives feel that they can combine an inoccuos word "white", and a positive word "Nationalist"
IMO, folks here are getting tied into a narrative they don't fully understand. White Nationalism doesn't remotely translate to Trump's "America First" concept. Even substituting the term American for "white", i.e., "American Nationalism", doesn't translate to "America First".
It more closely equates to America Only.
America Only is not remotely Trump's message.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 8:14 am
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