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re: Why does it matter who released Emails?
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:59 pm to CaptainBrannigan
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:59 pm to CaptainBrannigan
quote:You really cannot understand how there hasnt been one shred of evidence presented to support this? However both Wikileaks and the UK ambassador have said it was a leak from inside.
You really cannot understand how foreign influence on our election, in any form, is a bad thing?
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:00 pm to cameronml
quote:
You could consider that tampering with an election with a foreign power heavily dictating what information the US population receives before they vote. So it matters.
Similar to what the liberal media does?
No one has tampered more with the Election than Clinton/Wasserman
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:02 pm to cameronml
quote:
What if the Russians hacked Republican emails and decided not to release them because they thought it could make the Republicans look even worse than the Democrats? You could consider that tampering with an election with a foreign power heavily dictating what information the US population receives before they vote. So it matters.
You mean like how US media covers Dems vs Pubs? When US media colludes with a party "heavily dictating what information the US population receives before they vote" it's OK? Cause it's an inside job?
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:07 pm to WorkinDawg
quote:
You mean like how US media covers Dems vs Pubs? When US media colludes with a party "heavily dictating what information the US population receives before they vote" it's OK? Cause it's an inside job?
It's ok that the media colluded with the DNC to rig the election but its terrible that a 3rd party was able to shine a light on it. That's what passes for integrity in the democrat party today
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:12 pm to AFistfulof$
I think the Russian connections surrounding Trump are getting a bit worrisome. I don't think the WikiLeaks did anything but rally Trump's base around some fake narratives. Comey's letter and Hillary's poor campaigning did her in.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:17 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
I don't think the WikiLeaks did anything but rally Trump's base around some fake narratives.
How was it fake? It was the real emails.
The dumbest part about all of this is it was Hillary's unsecured email server that lead to all of this "hacking." How else did they know Podesta was using gmail. Then the idiot fell for a phishing scam like he was my 80 year old grandma trying to use email for the first time.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:20 pm to Douboy
quote:The emails were real, but the stories about pay to play and Comet Pizza were not.
How was it fake? It was the real emails.
The only real revelation was about DWS and she got canned in a hurry.
quote:And that would also be a false narrative. They would know Podesta used Gmail because it was never a secret.
The dumbest part about all of this is it was Hillary's unsecured email server that lead to all of this "hacking."
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:23 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
but the stories about pay to play and Comet Pizza were not
Pay to play was absolutely real. I read the emails marking "FOB" or "Friends of Bill." Besides, that was just one of many of the story lines that the emails exposed. The media would have a field day if it were emails about Trump, believe me.
I will save my comments about pizza until later.
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:27 pm to Douboy
quote:Everyone got all excited when they saw emails talking about pay to play signature forms and a folder named "pay to play". There was no link to any pay to play that wasn't built around a conspiracy before wikileaks started their releases.
Pay to play was absolutely real.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:28 pm to AFistfulof$
I made this point in another thread. It's just a misdirection ploy
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:29 pm to mmcgrath
No pay to play, so tell me why have the donations to the Clinton Family Slush fund dropped like Toddy at a gloryhole?
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:33 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
And that would also be a false narrative. They would know Podesta used Gmail because it was never a secret. This post was edited on 12/12 at 10:22 pm
We'll just ignore the fact that the fricking FBI said that they CONCLUDE that foreign nations penetrated Hillary's private server (in multiple configurations) due to the FACT that her associated contacts were also penetrated. We'll chalk that up as a false narrative because it was only the FB fricking I.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:34 pm to cameronml
quote:
dictating what information the US population receives before they vote. So it matters.
The issue is someone else was already dictating what information was disseminated.
The truth is there is nothing the RNC could have in a email that was going to derail Trump with his voters, nothing. Even if the Russians were able to get in and dig around there was no reason for them to confirm it by releasing the info.
Any help they gave Trump IF they were even involved was aimed at wounding Hildabeast more so that boosting her adversary.
The bitch paid a price for a lifetime of deceit and graft, who released to info is irrelevant to me, you may feel differently but this is far from "interfering in our election" in my book.
This is little different than Obama threatening the UK if he did not get his way influencing their Brexit vote.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:34 pm to Jbird
quote:
No pay to play, so tell me why have the donations to the Clinton Family Slush fund dropped like Toddy at a gloryhole?
Not gonna lie. I chortled, then peed a little.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:36 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:Not everyday you can work chortle and gloryhole into this short of a span while knocking a bottom boy.
Not gonna lie. I chortled, then peed a little.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:39 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
Everyone got all excited when they saw emails talking about pay to play signature forms and a folder named "pay to play". There was no link to any pay to play that wasn't built around a conspiracy before wikileaks started their releases.
The Clinton's have been bugged by pay-to-play issues since before they started renting out the Lincoln bedroom you disingenuous hack.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:42 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
The emails were real, but the stories about pay to play ... were not.
You just can't be this f*cking STUPID.
quote:
The only real revelation was about DWS and she got canned in a hurry.
And then hired by the sHitlary campaign in an even bigger hurry.
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:44 pm to CaptainBrannigan
I said in my OP that I don't like foreign governments meddling in our elections. However, my point was that it just seems that ppl are talking ab " Yes, what we did was wrong and illegal but you weren't suppose to know ab it!!" As some have already posted, there is no definitive evidence that it was the Russians and no evidence at all that actual voter fraud occurred w rigged machines, etc. It seems to me that we are seeing someone throw a tantrum not bc they are right but bc they got caught. The whole "well that ain't fair" mentality. Like another poster said, you don't think the US has hacked other govt's or influenced other elections (some even by force)? All that we are talking ab is someone (whoever that someone is) released the TRUTH so the voting base could make a decision based on all info out there which included defiant and blatant corruption and carelessness
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:45 pm to cameronml
Your argument is completely invalidated by the DNC candidate.
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