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re: Why does it matter who released Emails?

Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:59 pm to
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10822 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:59 pm to
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You really cannot understand how foreign influence on our election, in any form, is a bad thing?
You really cannot understand how there hasnt been one shred of evidence presented to support this? However both Wikileaks and the UK ambassador have said it was a leak from inside.
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 10:00 pm
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
12927 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:00 pm to
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You could consider that tampering with an election with a foreign power heavily dictating what information the US population receives before they vote. So it matters.


Similar to what the liberal media does?

No one has tampered more with the Election than Clinton/Wasserman
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:02 pm to
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What if the Russians hacked Republican emails and decided not to release them because they thought it could make the Republicans look even worse than the Democrats? You could consider that tampering with an election with a foreign power heavily dictating what information the US population receives before they vote. So it matters.


You mean like how US media covers Dems vs Pubs? When US media colludes with a party "heavily dictating what information the US population receives before they vote" it's OK? Cause it's an inside job?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10822 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:07 pm to
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You mean like how US media covers Dems vs Pubs? When US media colludes with a party "heavily dictating what information the US population receives before they vote" it's OK? Cause it's an inside job?

It's ok that the media colluded with the DNC to rig the election but its terrible that a 3rd party was able to shine a light on it. That's what passes for integrity in the democrat party today
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35391 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:12 pm to
I think the Russian connections surrounding Trump are getting a bit worrisome. I don't think the WikiLeaks did anything but rally Trump's base around some fake narratives. Comey's letter and Hillary's poor campaigning did her in.
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:17 pm to
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I don't think the WikiLeaks did anything but rally Trump's base around some fake narratives.


How was it fake? It was the real emails.

The dumbest part about all of this is it was Hillary's unsecured email server that lead to all of this "hacking." How else did they know Podesta was using gmail. Then the idiot fell for a phishing scam like he was my 80 year old grandma trying to use email for the first time.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35391 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:20 pm to
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How was it fake? It was the real emails.
The emails were real, but the stories about pay to play and Comet Pizza were not.

The only real revelation was about DWS and she got canned in a hurry.

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The dumbest part about all of this is it was Hillary's unsecured email server that lead to all of this "hacking."
And that would also be a false narrative. They would know Podesta used Gmail because it was never a secret.
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:23 pm to
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but the stories about pay to play and Comet Pizza were not


Pay to play was absolutely real. I read the emails marking "FOB" or "Friends of Bill." Besides, that was just one of many of the story lines that the emails exposed. The media would have a field day if it were emails about Trump, believe me.

I will save my comments about pizza until later.
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 10:24 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35391 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:27 pm to
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Pay to play was absolutely real.
Everyone got all excited when they saw emails talking about pay to play signature forms and a folder named "pay to play". There was no link to any pay to play that wasn't built around a conspiracy before wikileaks started their releases.
Posted by jmitc22
Brrrrr
Member since Jan 2007
1683 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:28 pm to
I made this point in another thread. It's just a misdirection ploy
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73434 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:29 pm to
No pay to play, so tell me why have the donations to the Clinton Family Slush fund dropped like Toddy at a gloryhole?
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:33 pm to
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And that would also be a false narrative. They would know Podesta used Gmail because it was never a secret. This post was edited on 12/12 at 10:22 pm


We'll just ignore the fact that the fricking FBI said that they CONCLUDE that foreign nations penetrated Hillary's private server (in multiple configurations) due to the FACT that her associated contacts were also penetrated. We'll chalk that up as a false narrative because it was only the FB fricking I.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:34 pm to
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dictating what information the US population receives before they vote. So it matters.



The issue is someone else was already dictating what information was disseminated.

The truth is there is nothing the RNC could have in a email that was going to derail Trump with his voters, nothing. Even if the Russians were able to get in and dig around there was no reason for them to confirm it by releasing the info.

Any help they gave Trump IF they were even involved was aimed at wounding Hildabeast more so that boosting her adversary.

The bitch paid a price for a lifetime of deceit and graft, who released to info is irrelevant to me, you may feel differently but this is far from "interfering in our election" in my book.

This is little different than Obama threatening the UK if he did not get his way influencing their Brexit vote.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39446 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:34 pm to
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No pay to play, so tell me why have the donations to the Clinton Family Slush fund dropped like Toddy at a gloryhole?


Not gonna lie. I chortled, then peed a little.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73434 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:36 pm to
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Not gonna lie. I chortled, then peed a little.
Not everyday you can work chortle and gloryhole into this short of a span while knocking a bottom boy.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

Everyone got all excited when they saw emails talking about pay to play signature forms and a folder named "pay to play". There was no link to any pay to play that wasn't built around a conspiracy before wikileaks started their releases.



The Clinton's have been bugged by pay-to-play issues since before they started renting out the Lincoln bedroom you disingenuous hack.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:42 pm to
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The emails were real, but the stories about pay to play ... were not.


You just can't be this f*cking STUPID.


quote:

The only real revelation was about DWS and she got canned in a hurry.


And then hired by the sHitlary campaign in an even bigger hurry.


This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 10:44 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111513 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:42 pm to
She is that stupid.
Posted by AFistfulof$
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
973 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:44 pm to
I said in my OP that I don't like foreign governments meddling in our elections. However, my point was that it just seems that ppl are talking ab " Yes, what we did was wrong and illegal but you weren't suppose to know ab it!!" As some have already posted, there is no definitive evidence that it was the Russians and no evidence at all that actual voter fraud occurred w rigged machines, etc. It seems to me that we are seeing someone throw a tantrum not bc they are right but bc they got caught. The whole "well that ain't fair" mentality. Like another poster said, you don't think the US has hacked other govt's or influenced other elections (some even by force)? All that we are talking ab is someone (whoever that someone is) released the TRUTH so the voting base could make a decision based on all info out there which included defiant and blatant corruption and carelessness
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:45 pm to
Your argument is completely invalidated by the DNC candidate.

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