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re: Why Does Black Lives Matter Use People Like Michael Brown and Alton Sterling?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:57 pm to upgrayedd
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:57 pm to upgrayedd
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If you want to dispute what I said, then do it.
I am. I want you to be consistent. You believed OJ killed Nicole despite the court ruling otherwise. Now you decide since Zimmerman was found not guilty by the courts it was a lawful shoot.
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:57 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Please explain to me how you can lawfully follow someone,
You're invested with a responsibility to monitor and coordinate suspicious activity
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provoke them, fight them, call the 911, get instructed to not follow him, decide you will disregard and shoot that person.
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This what exactly happened.
no, no it isn't
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:57 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Please explain to me how you can lawfully follow someone, provoke them, fight them, call the 911, get instructed to not follow him, decide you will disregard and shoot that person. This what exactly happened.
That is not at all what happened.
You actually don't know anything about the case do you?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:58 pm to Dale51
quote:he "knows" what he learned in the first week. Then. Turned his brain off
actually don't know anything about the case do you?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:59 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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You believed OJ killed Nicole despite the court ruling otherwise. Now you decide since Zimmerman was found not guilty by the courts it was a lawful shoot.
This makes zero sense. You do realize that..right?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:59 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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I am. I want you to be consistent. You believed OJ killed Nicole despite the court ruling otherwise. Now you decide since Zimmerman was found not guilty by the courts it was a lawful shoot.
WTF is this nonsense? I've never said anything about OJ.
It was a lawful shoot. For the third time, if it was not then tell me why. Don't worry, I won't expect an actual answer from you.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:00 pm to ShortyRob
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notwithstanding the accuracy of your statement. Stand your ground wasn't used as a defense.
Ok I will get off of stand your ground since that is the only thing y'all want to focus on.
Now can you explain this...
how you can lawfully follow someone, provoke them, fight them, call the 911, get instructed to not follow him, decide you will disregard and shoot that person?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:00 pm to ShortyRob
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he "knows" what he learned in the first week. Then. Turned his brain off
Racism tends to have that effect on people.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:01 pm to ShortyRob
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he "knows" what he learned in the first week. Then. Turned his brain off
He knows what Shaun King and Salon.com told him. That's enough evidence for him.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:02 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
quote:, well the fact you think it was used is an indication that you don't know much about the case
Ok I will get off of stand your ground since that is the only thing y'all want to focus on.
quote:as I said clearly you don't know much about the case.
how you can lawfully follow someone, provoke them, fight them, call the 911, get instructed to not follow him, decide you will disregard and shoot that person?
That said just because I'm bored. Tell me how Trayvon was provoked.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:03 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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You are a piece of work.
I'm an attorney who understands self-defense and Stand Your Ground laws.
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Please explain to me how you can lawfully follow someone, provoke them, fight them, call the 911, get instructed to not follow him, decide you will disregard and shoot that person.
First, the evidence in the case is different than what you posted. Zimmerman called 9-1-1 and reported a suspicious person (Martin). He was instructed not to follow the person and wait for police. However, he is under no legal duty to obey that command as 9-1-1 receptionists are not peace officer and do not have personal jurisdiction over callers. He followed Martin and then lost him. Based on the areas where Zimmerman last saw Martin and where the attack occurred, it is most likely that Martin doubled back behind Zimmerman and then initiated the attack. This is corroborated by the testimony of the girl Martin was on the phone with at the time. Physical evidence showed that while attacking Zimmerman, Martin slammed his head into the concrete. At this point, Zimmerman shot Martin while on his back. The forensic evidence showed that Martin was sitting atop Zimmerman when he was shot.
There is no evidence that suggests that Zimmerman physically engaged Martin prior to Martin attacking him. In fact, there is no evidence that Zimmerman spoke with Martin prior to Martin attacking him.
Lethal use of force in self-defense requires that the user be in reasonable fear for his life prior to using force. That burden cannot be met if he is not under attack or attack is imminent.
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This what exactly happened.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:03 pm to upgrayedd
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WTF is this nonsense? I've never said anything about OJ.
So in my ask a black man thread you were you not one of the people who tried to argue me down about OJ killing Nicole?
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It was a lawful shoot.
No it was a shame.
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or the third time, if it was not then tell me why. Don't worry, I won't expect an actual answer from you.
So you expect me to walk if I saw you walking in my neighborhood I could follow you, pick a fight with you, lose the fight and shoot you dead?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:06 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
quote:You're getting off stand your ground because you got busted out on it. Deflect, deflect, deflect.
Ok I will get off of stand your ground since that is the only thing y'all want to focus on.
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Now can you explain this...
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how you can lawfully follow someone
Not illegal
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provoke them
Explain
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fight them
Started by TM
quote:Not illegal
call the 911, get instructed to not follow him, decide you will disregard
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shoot that person
In reasonable fear of his life
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:06 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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So you expect me to walk if I saw you walking in my neighborhood I could follow you, pick a fight with you, lose the fight and shoot you dead?
This is not what happened.
What actual evidence that was presented in court led you to believe that?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:07 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:very key piece of evidence I might add
. This is corroborated by the testimony of the girl Martin was on the phone with at the time.
Can you imagine this case going down differently? Where the person doing the following was Trayvon and Zimmerman was on his phone with his girlfriend. And then in court testimony we find out that Zimmerman told his girlfriend some **** was following him?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:08 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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So in my ask a black man thread you were you not one of the people who tried to argue me down about OJ killing Nicole?
I don't think I posted once in that thread
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No it was a shame.
That's not a legal explanation. Explain why it was not a legal shoot....for the 4th time
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So you expect me to walk if I saw you walking in my neighborhood I could follow you, pick a fight with you, lose the fight and shoot you dead?
If I showed no signs of stopping my beating of you and you felt in reasonable fear for your life, yes.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:10 pm to TheXman
Why are we still talking about black lives matter? Election season is over.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:11 pm to RBWilliams8
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Why are we still talking about black lives matter? Election season is over.
The new Michael Brown video and documentary at SXSW . . .
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:16 pm to RBWilliams8
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Why are we still talking about black lives matter? Election season is over.
Apparently a couple posters here still think MB was a pillar of the community
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:19 pm to upgrayedd
And we are going to have to deal with all this hyperbole and misinformation when the officers in the Sterling matter are not indicted. I'm actually concerned about it.
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