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re: Why do Liberal gays hate conservative gays but LOVE muslims?
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:28 pm to mizzoukills
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:28 pm to mizzoukills
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And while I'm in a question asking mood...why do gays hate Trump, the most pro-gay President elect ever?
For the most part they don't hate him personally. It's all the uber social conservative nutjobs he's surrounded himself with. Every single one of this Cabinet picks have a sordid history of opposing gay rights. Some of them vehemently like his Vice President.
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:37 pm to Toddy
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For the most part they don't hate him personally
bullshite
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:55 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:03 pm to mizzoukills
I think it's because we let so many Christian refugees in through the years. They seem like they would be the more immediate religious threat to gay rights. These Jesus worshippers have already built a block big enough to coopt a whole major political party to push their agendas on others.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:36 pm to stuntman
quote:This is an excellent point. It's been proven over and over that whatever singular identity "cause" they claim to champion, their "progressivism" outranks it. They are leftists first and foremost.
Gay has nothing to do w it. They are "Progressives" first and foremost, so anything that is percieved to be pro- individualism is enemy number one to these True Believing collectivists.
That's why ZERO feminists support republican women and very few blacks support republican blacks.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:38 pm to mizzoukills
Gays and blacks treat intra-intellectual diversity like it's AIDS or their own children, respectively. Thinking independently makes you an Uncle Tom to them, which couldn't be more ironic.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:40 pm to blueboy
quote:I am a feminist, and I support republican women.
That's why ZERO feminists support republican women
Virtually every person on this board is a feminist, and most of them support republican women.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:44 pm to Ricardo
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The liberal mentality is to treat brown skinned people as pets and then blame themselves* when their pets bite them.
well said, Ricardo!
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:45 pm to ibldprplgld
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Conservative gay here.
Wow and I thought I was weird being a conservative atheist. (I'm straight, though. Sorry, bro).
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:45 pm to ibldprplgld
quote:Depends on how you look at it, though most of the people you're talking about ignore or don't know that GWB eagerly put more money into AIDS research than any President ever has.
I also love hearing from other gays how Republicans are the greater existential threat to them than Islam.
Back to your point: Republicans in power, in our lifetimes, have denied or openly attempted to deny gays their Constitutional rights as stated in the 14th amendment. And of course, Islamists want gays killed. The ratio of Republicans to Islamists in the United States is so large that you can reasonably conclude that, at least up until the same sex marriage decision, Republicans were a bigger problem for the gays then Islamists were.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:46 pm to AUbagman
quote:And those red hats they wear. Yuck.
Because they're doing what they're told and getting angry at what they're told to get angry at. Puppets on a string and people don't even realize it. frick tying your identity to a political party.
Wait. Wrong puppets.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:47 pm to Toddy
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Every single one of this Cabinet picks have a sordid history of opposing gay rights
1) that is a lie, making you, Toddy, a liar
2) opposing gay marriage is not the same as opposing equal treatment under the LAW (prior to SCOTUS decision)
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:52 pm to JPinLondon
quote:I don't know...the text of the 14th Amendment has been the same since it was ratified. Also, SCOTUS has referred to marriage more than 10 times as a human right. Opposing the marriage of two people because their junk looks too similar seems like an opposition to equal treatment.
2) opposing gay marriage is not the same as opposing equal treatment under the LAW (prior to SCOTUS decision)
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:54 pm to ibldprplgld
quote:What's being a gay conservative like? Are you ostracized by your peers for your opinions, or is it all good?
ibldprplgld
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:57 pm to mizzoukills
I actually know a homo that hates conservative gays but hates islam as well but then again he's one of those consistent militant atheists.
He's kind of like a gay bill maher.
He's kind of like a gay bill maher.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:59 pm to mizzoukills
Just like other groups, they have been fooled by the propaganda of the MSM and life long democrat politicians.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:59 pm to ballscaster
The government should recognize gay and straight marriage but beyond that I don't think marriage is any of the governments business. Church's shouldn't have to marry gay couples but they are free to go elsewhere.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:00 pm to GFaceKillah
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Tough for him to be the most pro-gay PE ever if that's the platform he ran on.
Cool expect he didn't.
He ran on the Trump platform.
And a platform at a party convention is just that, a platform. It's not legally binding and subject to change the next four years by the winning administration.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:04 pm to mizzoukills
“I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage."
Obama in October 2008
“I’ve just concluded that for me , personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married.
Obama in May 2012
Obama in October 2008
“I’ve just concluded that for me , personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married.
Obama in May 2012
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:04 pm to ballscaster
ballscaster, this where liberalism goes too far.
Being for full and equal treatment of gays, including all tax rights, protections, etc. of a civil union, and NOT wanting them to get a marriage certificate is a perfectly reasonable and decent opinion to hold.
And that opinion is one that gets conservatives labeled as homophobic and anti-gay. And that labeling is part of why Trump won. Same as when a conservative opposes illegal immigration and is called a xenophobic bigot.
The militant gay population will only be happy when we all consider their lifestyle "perfectly normal and an awesome choice, to be applauded by all -- group hugs!". In fact, it is an abnormal choice, but abnormal in the sense that the skillset of an NBA player is an abnormal one in the overall population.
Note in that last paragraph, I sad "militant gays" not all gays.
Being for full and equal treatment of gays, including all tax rights, protections, etc. of a civil union, and NOT wanting them to get a marriage certificate is a perfectly reasonable and decent opinion to hold.
And that opinion is one that gets conservatives labeled as homophobic and anti-gay. And that labeling is part of why Trump won. Same as when a conservative opposes illegal immigration and is called a xenophobic bigot.
The militant gay population will only be happy when we all consider their lifestyle "perfectly normal and an awesome choice, to be applauded by all -- group hugs!". In fact, it is an abnormal choice, but abnormal in the sense that the skillset of an NBA player is an abnormal one in the overall population.
Note in that last paragraph, I sad "militant gays" not all gays.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 3:13 pm
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