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re: Why do Liberal gays hate conservative gays but LOVE muslims?
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:05 pm to Undertow
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:05 pm to Undertow
quote:It was the government's business for centuries before it ever was a religious sacrament in the western world. Government and marriage are human constructs whose origin sort of go hand in hand, and they both predate any religion you've ever heard of.
I don't think marriage is any of the governments business
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:07 pm to ballscaster
quote:No. You're a pathetic troll.
Virtually every person on this board is a feminist, and most of them support republican women.
Card carrying, sign holding, protesting NOW members do not support republican women.
You fail, again.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:10 pm to ballscaster
quote:
Republicans were a bigger problem for the gays then Islamists were.
Wow
Let me put it like this: if someone took away my ability to be married to my wife, I wouldn't really care that much as long as I could still treat her like my wife. If someone literally threw me off a building or beheaded me for being attracted to my wife, I'd have a serious problem with it.
What kind of twisted, idiotic frick are you to think Muslims literally murdering even one gay person is somehow better than Republicans historically lobbying to deny gays a relationship title and dumb ceremony? If one of those things isn't clearly better than the alternative to you then something is legitimately wrong with you
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:14 pm to JPinLondon
quote:Decent or not, it isn't constitutional.
Being for full and equal treatment of gays, including all tax rights, protections, etc. of a civil union, and NOT wanting them to get a marriage certificate is a perfectly reasonable and decent opinion to hold.
quote:Denying two people a marriage certificate because they are a gay couple fits the dictionary definition of the word "homophobic." Don't blame me; my name isn't Webster or Oxford.
One that gets conservatives labeled as homophobic and anti-gay.
quote:You are 100% right on this one. Opposing illegal immigration and xenophobia are not the same. We could debate on the size of the overlap of the Venn diagram of "people who oppose illegal immigration" and "xenophobes," but you are right.
Same as when a conservative opposes illegal immigration and is called a xenophobic bigot.
quote:I live in Brooklyn and personally know more gays than there are dead wrestlers, and not a single one of them fits this description. Back when I lived in Louisiana, listened to AM talk radio, and watched Fox News all the time, this is what I thought of the gays. I'm just saying that my years of personal experience in one of the gayest most liberal American hotbeds have largely debunked the depictions of gays we see and hear in conservative media.
The militant gay population will only be happy when we all consider their lifestyle "perfectly normal and an awesome choice, to be applauded by all -- group hugs!
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:16 pm to blueboy
quote:Sounds like you don't know what feminism is. Pardon the pun: it's a broad term.
No. You're a pathetic troll.
Card carrying, sign holding, protesting NOW members do not support republican women.
You fail, again.
You are a feminist. We all are.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:17 pm to ballscaster
quote:
You are a feminist. We all are.
oh yes
trying to use 1st wave feminism as a definition when people are discussing the policy and insanity of 3rd wave feminism
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
His flaccid trolling is all he has left.
He too will be watching Donald Trump's feathery comb-over blow in the breeze as he busts a rhyme for America on Jan 20.
He too will be watching Donald Trump's feathery comb-over blow in the breeze as he busts a rhyme for America on Jan 20.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:22 pm to mizzoukills
Because secretly they all yearn to be violently violated by Muslim men and thrown off a building afterwards.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:22 pm to LSUgrad08112
quote:Marriage inequality was once ubiquitous; that means every gay person effectively was denied a right that is guaranteed by the Constitution.
if someone took away my ability to be married to my wife, I wouldn't really care that much as long as I could still treat her like my wife. If someone literally threw me off a building or beheaded me for being attracted to my wife, I'd have a serious problem with it.
Very few gays have been assaulted by Islamists.
quote:A guy who can do arithmetic.
What kind of twisted, idiotic frick are you to think Muslims literally murdering even one gay person is somehow better than Republicans historically lobbying to deny gays a relationship title and dumb ceremony?
Being abandoned by the father of your children isn't as bad for an individual as is being murdered by the father of your children, but the former is a worse problem for the population of women because it happens that much more often.
Same thing with Republicans v Islamists. Calm down.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Fair point, and nice catch.
trying to use 1st wave feminism as a definition when people are discussing the policy and insanity of 3rd wave feminism
I'm vocal about this issue because if people like us openly discuss the several views we share that are explicitly defined as feminist, it quells the screech of the militant third wave by taking away sole ownership of their agenda away from them.
Sort of like when an SJW burns a flag, I approve of it and tell him that it reminds me of the rebellious nature of Ronald Reagan and Jesus.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:28 pm to blueboy
quote:Your attitude toward me, a conservative man who does not always agree with you, is eerily similar to that of the gays who ostracize non-liberal gays.
His flaccid trolling is all he has left.
He too will be watching Donald Trump's feathery comb-over blow in the breeze as he busts a rhyme for America on Jan 20.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:30 pm to mizzoukills
Because they detest white males of European Christian ancestry. So they promote multiculturalism as a cloak to hide their real intent......the destruction of traditional values as practiced in our Christian culture (what's left of it). As far as the ultra-progressive liberal the only thing that really matters is what they say matters. They determine the narrative, they determine the values, in the end they determine who has value, even who lives and who dies. It's that simple.
That's why they hate the white working class (so-called deplorables) so much. We represent everything they loathe and given the chance (again) they will make good on their intent to kill us off. So my fellow white friends (especially you young whites)better start matching up and birthing white babies. You can bet Abdullah and his muslim vigina will be popping out muslim babies.....lots of them.
You cringe? Ask the British, the Germans, and the French what they think of these muslim immigrants and refugees. Their white women are being groped, raped, and fondled by refugee muslim men. Not a pretty picture is it?
Buyer beware!
That's why they hate the white working class (so-called deplorables) so much. We represent everything they loathe and given the chance (again) they will make good on their intent to kill us off. So my fellow white friends (especially you young whites)better start matching up and birthing white babies. You can bet Abdullah and his muslim vigina will be popping out muslim babies.....lots of them.
You cringe? Ask the British, the Germans, and the French what they think of these muslim immigrants and refugees. Their white women are being groped, raped, and fondled by refugee muslim men. Not a pretty picture is it?
Buyer beware!
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:36 pm to mizzoukills
Its very simple:
1. The Left HATES the West and wants to destroy it.
2. They only support Islam as a means to disrupt and deconstruct Western Civilization.
Apply #1 to any question you have about Leftist beliefs.
1. The Left HATES the West and wants to destroy it.
2. They only support Islam as a means to disrupt and deconstruct Western Civilization.
Apply #1 to any question you have about Leftist beliefs.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:43 pm to ballscaster
quote:
The militant gay population will only be happy when we all consider their lifestyle "perfectly normal and an awesome choice, to be applauded by all -- group hugs! [JP]
quote:
I live in Brooklyn and personally know more gays than there are dead wrestlers, and not a single one of them fits this description. Back when I lived in Louisiana, listened to AM talk radio, and watched Fox News all the time, this is what I thought of the gays. I'm just saying that my years of personal experience in one of the gayest most liberal American hotbeds have largely debunked the depictions of gays we see and hear in conservative media. [BC]
Interesting point ballscaster. And I likely agree almost entirely. Without turning this into a 'resume for who has more gay friends' I can tell you that having lived in Manhattan (Murray Hill), Morristown (NJ), Metairie, Houston, Baton Rouge and Moscow.... I absolutely agree with you on the overall "chill" nature of the gays I know.
Most are/were very cool, very decent, non-militant, non-activists. Often fiscilly conservative, even. Amongst their 'desire for rights'.. a small list.. they just don't want their partner to get sick and have a family member deny them hospital access (the scariest and most common concern I ever heard from them). And quite frankly, it is a concern that troubles me as a human being who tries to judge people by the content of their character. A government that imposes that outrageous policy on gays, is a huge problem for me. So civil unions are/were big for the ones I know. Gay marriage... not so much.
So we seem to agree a lot on these points. HOWEVER, the vocal activists ABSOLUTELY fit the point that I made earlier and am repeating below:
quote:
The MILITANT gay population will only be happy when we all consider their lifestyle "perfectly normal and an awesome choice, to be applauded by all -- group hugs!". In fact, it is an abnormal choice, but abnormal in the sense that the skillset of an NBA player is an abnormal one in the overall population.
If you can't see that, you are blind to the rhetoric they have spewed for a couple decades, if not longer.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:50 pm to JPinLondon
quote:Say no more
Without turning this into a 'resume for who has more gay friends' I can tell you that having lived in Manhattan (Murray Hill)
quote:Wow, same here, and I find such denial inhumane and any opposition to legislation that would remedy this, despicable.
they just don't want their partner to get sick and have a family member deny them hospital access (the scariest and most common concern I ever heard from them).
quote:Yes. I think this board is under the impression that the majority of the gay population is like this, when it is a very small minority—so small that in 10 years in New York I've never even met one of them. And I go to gay bars often.
The MILITANT gay population will only be happy when we all consider their lifestyle "perfectly normal and an awesome choice, to be applauded by all -- group hugs!".
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
trying to use 1st wave feminism as a definition when people are discussing the policy and insanity of 3rd wave feminism
He still calls himself a conservative but doesn't see that New York and its cesspool of identity politics and cultural marxism has completely rotted and drained his brain.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:52 pm to ballscaster
quote:
Marriage inequality was once ubiquitous; that means every gay person effectively was denied a right that is guaranteed by the Constitution.
Very few gays have been assaulted by Islamists.
Welp that settles it. Being denied a constitutional right is worse than being murdered. And you should tell that to the 100+ gays who were shot and killed in Orlando earlier this year and to the gays who are regularly murdered solely for being gay in Saudi Arabia.
quote:
A guy who can do arithmetic.
Being abandoned by the father of your children isn't as bad for an individual as is being murdered by the father of your children, but the former is a worse problem for the population of women because it happens that much more often.
Yea this isn't really how the world works, nice attempt at comparing apples and oranges though dumbass, since abandoning children and not being able to get married are definitely comparable and all. Hint: one of those things has tangible, observable negative consequences and the other doesn't. I'll keep going out on a limb and saying that a single person being murdered is infinitely worse than millions and millions and millions of people being granted the right to a ceremony that has absolutely no tangible benefit. None. If marriage was suddenly outlawed today, absolutely nothing changes for anyone on earth. I'm sorry if you're too stupid to understand that.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:54 pm to Sentrius
quote:Then you'll have no problem listing several of my liberal stances in response to this post. Go ahead.
He still calls himself a conservative but doesn't see that New York and its cesspool of identity politics and cultural marxism has completely rotted and drained his brain.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:58 pm to LSUgrad08112
quote:It's as if I'm discussing this with a militantly liberal woman who has been in college for half a semester. That is, you're completely ignoring the mathematical difference between an individual and a population.
Welp that settles it. Being denied a constitutional right is worse than being murdered.
Most gays had their rights denied by the government; most gays do not get assaulted by Islamists; therefore, for most gays, Republicans have been a bigger problem for gays than have Islamists.
Why is it so hard for you to see this objective from more than a single angle? There is no reason an adult male should not be pragmatic enough to understand this.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:59 pm to Toddy
quote:
Every single one of this Cabinet picks have a sordid history of opposing gay rights.
Care to provide proven, solid facts backing this claim up? Or are you just going to continue lying and bitching about how Trump isn't your president?
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