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Why do dem-governed cities have the highest crime & murder rates?

Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:18 am
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:18 am
How is it possible that the most intellectually capable & educated in our society are so prone to violence?
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 10:20 am
Posted by Damone
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Posted by NIH
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:19 am to
Black governed*
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:20 am to
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Why do dem-governed cities have the highest crime & murder rates?
Also the lowest. NYC is virtually the safest place in the entire country.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:23 am to
Thank that fascist Rudy Giuliani for stop and frisk and changing the course of crime in NYC
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:32 am to
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Also the lowest. NYC is virtually the safest place in the entire country.


But now that Rudy is out of office, the rates are heading back up.
Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:32 am to
Culture & diversity
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:43 am to
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Culture & diversity


But dems are so SMART!!!
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:44 am to
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But dems THINK they are so SMART!!!

FIFY
Posted by goofball
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:45 am to
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Why do dem-governed cities have the highest crime & murder rates?


One contributing factor:

Highest levels of drug trade (highest demand) meets generally well funded law enforcement agencies.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:47 am to
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But now that Rudy is out of office, the rates are heading back up.
Rudy's been out of office since 2002. The drop in crime started before he was elected and continued for over a decade after he was elected. Note: this is not to assign credit/blame to any specific politician. It's just to establish clearly known facts.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:10 am to
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Rudy's been out of office since 2002.


You're right.

The real reason for NYC crime rates lowering is gentrification, but nobody wants to talk about that.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:12 am to
There was a post the other day about how states with the lowest IQ rates always vote R. Everyone wrote that off as correlation without causation. But tell me how this is different. Please.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:13 am to
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But tell me how this is different. Please.


It's exactly the same.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:14 am to
At least your honest. Cheers to that sir.

And they are correlated for a reason. It may not be direct causation, but there are some connections there. In both instances.
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Posted by Loungefly85
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:19 am to
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Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:33 am to
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but there are some connections there


yup...and I think we both know what the connections are.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:35 am to
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The real reason for NYC crime rates lowering is gentrification, but nobody wants to talk about that.
I wish it were that easy, but it's not. It's not like the entire city has been gentrified. The rate of violent crime has plummeted for a variety of reasons - and it seems unlikely due to increased police/prison policies. New York is a state that famously "uncracked" down on prisoners - releasing a lot of prisoners...to the effect of a continuing decrease in crime.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:38 am to
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I wish it were that easy


Gentrification is exactly the reason.
I read somewhere that of the worst 100 streets to live in NYC in 1990, 97 now have property values exceeding $1,500/sf.

That kind of increase in property value will forces the poors out...which drives crime down.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:45 am to
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That kind of increase in property value will forces the poors out...which drives crime down.
That just moves the poors to other areas, increasing crime there.
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