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re: Why are guns a right in the Constitution but not affordable housing?
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:18 am to 225life
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:18 am to 225life
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Capitalism technically falls under the spectrum of communism.
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I think you're looking for the term socialist
No, "socialism" is the bait to sell the communism hook. Capitalism is the exact opposite of communism.
If the shoe fits, lace that bitch up and wear it.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:19 am to 225life
Don’t know why this thread was resurrected, but I’ll keep it simple. Rights do not rely on other people doing things for you.
No one has a “right” to a portion of anyone else’s life or labor. Demanding somebody give something freely is tyranny, and not a right.
No one has a “right” to a portion of anyone else’s life or labor. Demanding somebody give something freely is tyranny, and not a right.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:19 am to 225life
The right to defend one's person is, and always has been, treated as fundamental to a self-governing/sovereign people. If you don't understand that, or know how, when and where those ideas were codified, then you are simply UNEDUCATED.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:21 am to 225life
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225life
I literally sent you 2 or 3 replies regarding "homelessness". It is a choice. You can do drugs or you can own a home. You can't do both. If you want both, go to California where they give you free cell phones, give you $620/month, give you a tent, and let you abuse as many drugs as you want free of criminal conviction. Then tell me there is a "homeless problem". The only problem is liberals.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:21 am to 225life
If something could be done about some homelessness, it couldn't involve government because they mess up everything.
So what would you consider affordable housing?
And would it be temporary, such as a 6-month period or so that a person could take advantage of while getting on their feet?
So what would you consider affordable housing?
And would it be temporary, such as a 6-month period or so that a person could take advantage of while getting on their feet?
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:21 am to Loserman
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people who live productive lives
That is his kryptonite right there. Self-Responsibility.
Democrats have brain washed the poor into believing their plight has ZERO to do with their own actions AND that they should have everything Warren Buffett does while maintaining their current life choices and life styles.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:21 am to 225life
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I couldn’t care less if you attack me, im asking what the fine people of tiger droppings have to say. This is a personal attack fallacy of someone you do not know.
He didn't attack you. He asked a thought provoking question. I recommend you read it again, carefully, and posit a response.
However, you do you. I'm not in the habit of making anyone do anything.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:22 am to 225life
You may need to defend yourself from a tyrannicwl government, but that same potentially tyrannical government does not need to act as a parent and save you from your lazy self.
That said, ever hear of Section 8, or Govt subsidized housing?... Housing projects?
GTFO with your handout crap... actual working people already tax fund almost half the population in some way...it already exists.
That said, ever hear of Section 8, or Govt subsidized housing?... Housing projects?
GTFO with your handout crap... actual working people already tax fund almost half the population in some way...it already exists.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:23 am to 225life
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Why are guns a right in the Constitution but not affordable housing
Others have given good answers to your question but my question to you is who determines what “affordable” is? What metrics would be used?
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:24 am to PollyDawg
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So what would you consider affordable housing?
This is the key. As others have stated, housing is affordable. 225life's problem is he wants to be given a $300,000 home in exchange for no work.
225life, you can live in a trailer. That is affordable. You can rent. Also affordable. You can live in a tent, extremely affordable. All are examples of affordable housing. Why don't you attempt to live in any of these options?
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:25 am to 225life
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Im just worried about the future homeless that shoot up schools :(
Just ban murder….oh wait.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:26 am to Crimson1st
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but my question to you is who determines what “affordable” is? What metrics would be used?
I will guarantee you'll get a reply of
"i don't know, but i shouldn't have to work for xx years to afford a house my grandparents got for $xx,xxx"
He'll ignore inflation, the value of a dollar then vs. now, the fact his grandparents worked for a living, and the reason why the dollar has much less buying power now than then due to the exact thing he demands. GOVERNMENT "BUYING" YOU A HOUSE.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 8:27 am
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:26 am to 225life
quote:Go see what car your Sociology instructor drives (assuming it doesn't have two wheels and a basket for his poodle) and see if you really want to go down that route in life.
There are plenty of countries who do not have gun issues like America. I guess mass shootings are a god given right as well?
You have a right to a gun just as you have a right to housing. Neither one requires anyone else to provide it for you.
Get a real job, stop being a pussy, and grow the eff up.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:26 am to riccoar
However i get a free abortion with your tax money if its legal? The topic wasnt free, it was suggested AFFORDABLE, which means you still have to work and pay for said house. Just within your means
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:28 am to 225life
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The topic wasnt free, it was suggested AFFORDABLE, which means you still have to work and pay for said house.
Define AFFORDABLE.
I can afford my house. Many posters here afford there's. Why can we afford a house, but you can't?
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:28 am to 225life
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im asking what the fine people of tiger droppings have to say.
It’s not what we say… it’s what you don’t know.
The constitution is not meant to grant government stuff to people. It’s not.
Name one law that prohibits a citizen from buying or building a residence in the United States. Where they absolutely cannot build a home. Anywhere. They are shut out. It’s a tent for life for them. Find one. Don’t have to be federal. Doesn’t have to be state. It can be a HOA bylaw. Anything. Anywhere.
Ohhhhhhhhhh but that’s not what you want. You want the government to provide them homes. To build them. To hand them the keys. For me to pay for my home…. But hand out housing elsewhere. With the money I send to the US government. In the name of eeeeeeqqqqquuuuuuiiiiiiiitttttyyyyy. The kind of equity where I pay.. and someone else doesn’t have to.
Your argument is also flawed from the point of comparing rights. Well… using your stance… where can I apply for free guns? I have a gosh darn right to have them!!! Where can I get a free one????
“Uhh uhh you can go to the military and they will give you one!! Huh! Huh!” You know what else they will give you?? Shelter.
Run along and play. And be sure to give a substantial portion of your check to a housing charity since you are so concerned. Don’t be a hypocrite.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:29 am to 225life
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This was NOT about attacking the second amendment at all. This was about possibly making another amendment for housing. You dont think its weird that gun violence is out of control in America, yet we reserve the rights for crazies (potentially) homeless people to have them. Simply a comparison
Your inability to make a meaningful comparison is maybe the worst I've seen on this board. The right to keep and bear arms does not give you the right to kill someone. Murder is illegal.
A homeless person can have a house or a gun or both or none. They just have to go buy one or not. Its not illegal to own a house. It is illegal to murder people in your house. Its illegal to murder people with your gun in your house or outside of your house.
Follow the dots. Slowly.
I wasn't aware anyone made home ownership illegal. So I'm not sure why you'd need that right protected. Now, if you said they should make it a Right to own property without taxation protected under the Constitution, then I'd understand your point.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 8:32 am
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:29 am to Crimson1st
Wow. The smartest person on this thread is went to AL. Good reply
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:31 am to Robin Masters
Ban gun violence. Oh wait, you like that :)
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:31 am to 225life
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The topic wasnt free, it was suggested AFFORDABLE, which means you still have to work and pay for said house. Just within your means
You know that exists don’t you? It’s called section 8. And it’s a crime magnet.
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