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Which political group (mindset) has been most responsible for the making of the USA?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:20 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:20 am
Since the early 1700s, which political ideology has been most responsible & necessary in the building of our nation?
Don't use Republicans & Democrats, because those groups have changed places at least once...and maybe more.
Don't use Republicans & Democrats, because those groups have changed places at least once...and maybe more.
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:20 am to Eli Goldfinger
The Whigs...do you even Washington bro?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:20 am to Eli Goldfinger
Classic Liberalism
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:21 am to Eli Goldfinger
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my political ideology. the other political ideologies are shite and got in the way
Summarized this thread for you
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:21 am to Antonio Moss
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Classic Liberalism
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:23 am to Antonio Moss
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Classic Liberalism
Classic liberalism sprinkled with a healthy distrust of a powerful centralized government.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:24 am to Antonio Moss
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Classic Liberalism
I tend to agree with this.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:24 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Classic liberalism
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healthy distrust of a powerful centralized government.
Redundant
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:24 am to Antonio Moss
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Classic Liberalism
Yep, almost by definition.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:28 am to Eli Goldfinger
Working class Christian white males
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:28 am to Eli Goldfinger
The forgotten man - William Graham Sumner's version, not FDR's
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:32 am to Eli Goldfinger
The modern American state has almost little to do with classical liberalism and hasn't since the end of WW2. I would say Straussian politics has been the dominant philosophy over the past 70 years. It accounts for the belief in American imperialism, neoconservatism and the accountability gap between the elites and those who are ruled.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:44 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Since the early 1700s, which political ideology has been most responsible & necessary in the building of our nation? Don't use Republicans & Democrats, because those groups have changed places at least once...and maybe more.
Both, but in different ways. Neither side is without blame. That's why a 3rd party is such a huge need. Unfortunately, the two parties are too powerful to allow it. Unless Trump can bring it all crashing down at one time.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:50 am to Antonio Moss
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Classic Liberalism
Not a lot of that going around, anymore.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:56 am to Eli Goldfinger
Classical Liberalism ./thread
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:03 pm to Lsupimp
If the founders were alive today they would be libertarians.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:08 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:This.
Classic Liberalism
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:11 pm to Zach
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If the founders were alive today they would be libertarians.
No they wouldn't be.
They'd be closer to the libertarian side than our government is today, but to say that they would be true libertarians isn't accurate either.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:20 pm to Zach
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If the founders were alive today they would be libertarians.
More like traitors, because they would have started a civil war
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:24 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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Which political group (mindset) has been most responsible for the making of the USA?
I agree that classic liberalism most accurately describes the dominant philosophy in shaping the USA but there is little doubt that we've seen a significant pivot away from that in the last century. Not sure when you would say the first main pivot occurred - maybe the New Deal? The New Deal's form of liberalism didn't look much like classic liberalism and I don't think we've ever really fully returned to it since then. We've had periods of returning to a watered down version of it from time to time I guess. Regardless classic liberalism may have been most responsible for the making of the USA, but it's influence is not nearly as strong now and we are being made into something else now.
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