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Where did Trump get the list of 7 countries? Obama's administration
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:32 am
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:32 am
Not a conservative news outlet
SIAP
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According to the draft copy of Trump's executive order, the countries whose citizens are barred entirely from entering the United States is based on a bill that Obama signed into law in December 2015.
Obama signed the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act as part of an omnibus spending bill. The legislation restricted access to the Visa Waiver Program, which allows citizens from 38 countries who are visiting the United States for less than 90 days to enter without a visa.
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At the initial signing of the restrictions, foreigners who would normally be deemed eligible for a visa waiver were denied if they had visited Iran, Syria, Sudan or Iraq in the past five years or held dual citizenship from one of those countries.
In February 2016, the Obama administration added Libya, Somali and Yemen to the list of countries one could not have visited
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So, in a nutshell, Obama restricted visa waivers for those seven Muslim-majority countries — Iran, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, Libya and Yemen — and now, Trump is looking to bar immigration and visitors from the same list of countries.
SIAP
This post was edited on 1/29/17 at 9:32 am
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
Rudy G has already spilled the beans on how best to have a Muslim ban without it being a "Muslim ban". Rudy G told Trump to use the countries the President Obama identified as dangerous.
This post was edited on 1/29/17 at 9:51 am
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
For some reason I can't access the White House fact sheet on those actions from the Obama archives this am..
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:35 am to GEAUXmedic
oops. i was off board when that was posted and it's from a different media outlet so it didn't show up in search
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:43 am to SlowFlowPro
This link LINK work for anybody? I can't access it. It could yesterday.
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:44 am to baybeefeetz
Works fine for me.
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:46 am to PuntBamaPunt
Thanks. I'm trying to throw it in my wife's face but having trouble for some reason.
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:49 am to SlowFlowPro
So trump doesn't think Saudi Arabia which has known ties to terrorism should be included?
He's just gonna do what Obama says.
He's just gonna do what Obama says.
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Wait, Presidents picking up and carrying on the agenda from the previous one, who carried it on from the previous one, etc. etc.
Who could have seen this coming?
Who could have seen this coming?
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:51 am to mahdragonz
Ties? Exactly what do you mean by ties? Are they training people how to do terrorist acts in SA? Is SA really the same as those other countries. Really spend time thinking about it.
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:52 am to mahdragonz
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So trump doesn't think Saudi Arabia which has known ties to terrorism should be included?
Saudi Arabia is a hot potato. Obama's admin didn't include them, either
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He's just gonna do what Obama says.
Trump is using the Alinsky Rules for Radicals against DEMs
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Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:53 am to TX Tiger
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Wait, Presidents picking up and carrying on the agenda from the previous one, who carried it on from the previous one, etc. etc.
Who could have seen this coming?
serious question
you believe that the major media is controlled by the elite, correct?
why are they completely changing their behavior with Trump, when he's carrying on the agenda of the previous admin?
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:56 am to SlowFlowPro
It's pretty lengthy, but I read through both the Obama bill and Trump's thing and it looks like there are some material differences between the processes that those from the target countries have to go through. I know it's the same countries, but it's not the same rules. At least not at first glance.
This post was edited on 1/29/17 at 9:57 am
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:56 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:what do you mean by completely changing their behavior?
why are they completely changing their behavior with Trump
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
Removing countries from that region from the visa WAIVER program is an appropriate move. That's what Obama did. Under that action all people seeking to enter have to apply for a visa before they come. This is closing the border to people from those countries even for those to whom visas have been issued. This is not an "Obama did it too" situation. That assertion is a lie, plain and simple.
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:58 am to cahoots
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and it looks like there are some material differences between the processes that those from the target countries have to go through
the processes are different. the impact is different
but the 7 countries are the exact same. that was a big media deal yesterday
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:58 am to TX Tiger
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what do you mean by completely changing their behavior?
ignoring/covering for Obama and attacking Trump
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:58 am to TBoy
Yeah that's what I'm saying. They look to be very different and the right is making themselves look foolish with a lame gotcha attempt.
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:59 am to TBoy
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Removing countries from that region from the visa WAIVER program is an appropriate move. That's what Obama did. Under that action all people seeking to enter have to apply for a visa before they come. This is closing the border to people from those countries even for those to whom visas have been issued.
did you read the thread of this post?
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Where did Trump get the list of 7 countries?
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This is not an "Obama did it too" situation. That assertion is a lie, plain and simple.
when discussing the selection and the countries themselves, yes, it is
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