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What the Republicans should have learned from the election

Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:22 pm
Here are a few I thought of -

Stop running moderate candidates. Romney and McCain tried to come across as canidates near the center. Both failed. Yes someone with strong opinions on controversial issues can win, even if the left hates them.

Stop trying to cater to demographic groups that will never vote Republican anyway. Stick with what has worked, strong military, fiscal conservatives and Christians. Adding in blue collar support sealed the election. Stop trying to get the LBGT vote, they only make up 1% of the population and won't vote Republican anyway. Stop trying to play both sides on abortion issues. Christians stay home if they don't have a strong advocate unless the democrat nominee is Satan himself. You be the judge on which occurred this time.

Don't be apologetic or try to rephrase your message when criticized for it. By default, close to half the population will hate the Republican no matter what they say. No Republican will agree with 100% of what any candidate. Stick with your message and those that always vote Republican in the end still will.
This post was edited on 1/22/17 at 9:23 pm
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24147 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:26 pm to
Democrats do not generally hate Republicans the way they hate Trump. It is not difficult to be a Republican and not be despised the way Trump is by the opposition.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

Democrats do not generally hate Republicans the way they hate Trump. It is not difficult to be a Republican and not be despised the way Trump is by the opposition.


And he still won in spite of it.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68212 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:30 pm to
It went beyond not being moderate and typical. He basically talked shite the entire time and pulled no punches. I'm not sure any future republican can do that. Part of it was people knew Trump was being Trump. He's been known as crass and boorish for years and that inoculated him against the enemies' attacks.

He also revived the Reagan democrat with a less than conservative appeal to trade issues.

All that said, if we're being honest, he squeaked out a narrow victory thanks to the Midwest.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68212 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

Democrats do not generally hate Republicans the way they hate Trump. It is not difficult to be a Republican and not be despised the way Trump is by the opposition


George W Bush and Ronald Reagan would like a word with you.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24147 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:32 pm to
It will take a lot more to win again in 2020. The turnover from Democrats will hit all-time highs.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24147 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:34 pm to
The dislike for Bush needs to be in perspective. Dems hate Trump much more than they ever hated Bush.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

Democrats do not generally hate Republicans the way they hate Trump.


bullshite. Are you saying that before Trump the vile crap directed at conservatives or republicans didn't exist? bullshite.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68212 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:35 pm to
Usually the incumbent has a big advantage. I think Trump is the favorite, for now.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:36 pm to
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Dems hate Trump much more than they ever hated Bush.


So their mental illness is progressing as time passes? How progressive!
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68212 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:39 pm to
I don't think so. There were constant "Bush is Hitler" protests. The idiots camped out in his ditch in Crawford for months if not an entire year.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:43 pm to
Not that it matters but the lgbt vote makes up like 10% of the Millenial generation and will going forward.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:43 pm to
U.S. citizens for the large majority are in the middle. Both parties should focus on running candidates who are financially conservative and socially progressive.

I would like to see a legitimate 3rd party empowered.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24147 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:45 pm to
Agreed. Fiscally conservative, socially liberal, and not a war hawk.

To be clear, lower taxes and make the federal government smaller. Get out of the bedroom and let people do their own thing. Stop going to war with everyone and focus on domestic security.
This post was edited on 1/22/17 at 9:47 pm
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
3460 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:47 pm to
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Stop trying to cater to demographic groups that will never vote Republican anyway. Stick with what has worked, strong military, fiscal conservatives and Christians.

The next generation won't be as white as it is now. Your still have enough white people who will vote for those issues at the moment. What should the Republican strategy be 15-20 years from now, when the country will inevitably be more racially and culturally diverse, because what you have laid out won't work in my opinion.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

It will take a lot more to win again in 2020. The turnover from Democrats will hit all-time highs.


We also have to remember that younger voters can't hardly ever remember having a president that wasn't named Obama. 18 year olds had Obama almost half their lives. They had heard Hollywood and the news media proclaiming the doom and gloom apacolypse message if a Republican was elected that entire time. I think the light will come on for many younger voters in four years when they realize the world didn't end. George H W Bush received 53% of the 18 to 29 year old vote in 1988.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140394 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

Democrats do not generally hate Republicans the way they hate Trump.


I would argue that you are wrong.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69294 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:52 pm to
Toddy, do you think 10% of millenials are truly gay?
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21239 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

It will take a lot more to win again in 2020.


Not really. The South will remain red and Colorado could flip back. With the change in government over the next 4 years NOVA's impact could be reduced and VA goes red.

If jobs return to the Midwest though, those states could stay red for a long time. The Democrat party does not really represent those states any longer. They could add Minnesota as part of the new wall.

The left voting people are loading up in the same states, therefore the EC does work in their favor.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 10:00 pm to
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Not that it matters but the lgbt vote makes up like 10% of the Millenial generation and will going forward.


Don't want to derail the topic, but the percentage is much lower than what people believe. For every 10 people you know, one is gay? Look at actual demographic information. LBGT is the loudest demographic, but they don't make up a large potential Republican voting block. It makes as much sense as trying to get the Muslim vote.
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