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re: What motivates people to live above their means?

Posted on 4/25/14 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57867 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 3:33 pm to
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In 1900, there was no practical way for a poor person to regularly live above their means because they simply didnt have the assets to put down for such activities. In 2014, we have ample means of paying for things we dont actually have money for. It is very, very easy to live above your means today. That wasnt the case for most of history.



Yeah I agree with this.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 3:42 pm to
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In 1900, there was no practical way for a poor person to regularly live above their means because they simply didnt have the assets to put down for such activities.

there was most certainly a way for poor people to live above their means. Moneylenders have existed for thousands of years, and poor people are great targets since they are low flight risks, often lack education (read math skills) and are much easier to bully than rich people.

I will totally agree, borrowing money is easier now though. And there are more ways to borrow.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 3:45 pm to
It was much more difficult to obtain loans from reputable sources back then, and the dangers of borrowing money you couldnt pay back from shadier lenders was substantial.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 3:55 pm to
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the average IQ is less then 100 in this country, i mean what do you expect? dumb people make dumb decisions. You nor I will ever understand it because we are not Dumb. I hate to be mean and so blunt but it is the truth. And people who make a lot of money can be dumb with money. But in general, people who have low IQs make decisions that are stupid to those of us with higher IQs.



The average is actually 100, making half of the population below average ( president Eisenhower was astonished to learn this, and didn't understand the simple mathematical reality!. There is no shortage of PhDs, MDs, JDs, and other highly educated people that cannot manage money.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260171 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 4:15 pm to
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There's no need to use the data service. I have a smart phone because it was the only free option. My data use is basically nill. Sometimes it goes up a little during football season.


Your data use may be nil, but for a free phone you still have to purchase a plan.

If you find one giving out free phones with no service contract, let me know. I'll be all over it once my contract expires.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 4:35 pm to
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It was much more difficult to obtain loans from reputable sources back then, and the dangers of borrowing money you couldnt pay back from shadier lenders was substantial.


Agreed. but the money was still there. the collection techniques weren't, hey let me bother you during dinner.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 4:45 pm to
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At 30 years old she lived paycheck to paycheck

I've ALWAYS lived "paycheck to paycheck". Cash sitting in a checking account does nothing for me. If I have money left over from my last paycheck when I get my next, I've miscalculated somewhere.

It's called 'budgeting'. I pretty much know where all of my money is going to go before I get it.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 4:48 pm to
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What motivates people to live above their means?


My theory has been Facebook has created a keeping up with the Jones on steroids.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 4:49 pm
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 4:51 pm to
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My theory has been Facebook has created a keeping up with the Jones on steroids.


It seems everyone in my feed is fighting to take the biggest trip, have the biggest parties/tailgates, buy cars, motorcycles, clothes and hunt/fish the most.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 4:52 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57867 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 5:06 pm to
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It seems everyone in my feed is fighting to take the biggest trip, have the biggest parties/tailgates, buy cars, motorcycles, clothes and hunt/fish the most.



I'm sure social media is a factor and all media for that matter. Years ago, some people's entire worlds was limited to the town or region directly around them and one didn't constantly know what others were doing or had. Now, someone is eating at a fancy Resturant, they post it on Facebook. Buy a new ride, same. It's definitely a factor.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123839 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 7:48 pm to
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There once was a couple who had an entire lush garden and all that was forbidden from them was one tree, and yet, the garden wasn't enough.

Lol, hope this was a joke
Relates to the OP re: Penis Envy



Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66415 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 8:41 pm to
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To me the question is why has it changed. Is there a root cause of our society becoming increasingly materialistic?


Greater access to credit and credit cards

More commercials.

There is a lot more cools tuff to buy.
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