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re: what issues did Russia successfully change the minds of Americans to get trump elected?

Posted on 2/10/18 at 1:34 am to
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 1:34 am to
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Its resulted in two indicatments of senior campaign officials


Name and date the charges, please. You are convinced the campaign is at the center of this, and I really want to figure out if you're right.

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If the same happened to Obama you wouldnt be able to talk about anything else.


Wrong. I downplayed plenty of Obama admin shenanigans as not really a big deal. Didn't you?
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 1:43 am to
His record as a law enforcement official was endorsed by both parties. I see no reason to question his integrity especially considering that he has uncovered two criminals already.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 1:45 am to
If you arent aware of the indictments then perhaps a Google search would help more than our back and forth.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 1:55 am to
I am aware of the indictments that had nothing to do with the 2016 election. If I missed the ones that implicated the Trump campaign in some Russian conspiracy, I pray you educate me.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 3:25 am to
The scumbags he hired have no integrity.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80459 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 5:43 am to
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In a normal world, the experienced Clinton blows out the goofy outsider Trump with his reality TV history and outrageous past.


In a "normal world", someone like Clinton is such damaged goods that she's never a viable candidate. In a "normal world", a hard left borderline communist like Bernie Sanders isn't anywhere close to a realistic candidate.

Also, in a "normal world" (20 years ago), someone like Hilary Clinton is able to peddle her bullshite with impunity.

The Trump Campaign used the Democrat Party's own weapons against them and they had no idea how to respond. It's like the smallest kid at school going up to a bully and punching him in the dick with brass knuckles, then doing it again when the bully regains his composure. Everyone else standing around is both grateful that someone finally did it and in shock that it actually happened.

Don't make the mistake of confusing Hilary Clinton with Bill Clinton. 1992-2000 Bill Clinton would be further to the right of most of today's Republicans.
This post was edited on 2/10/18 at 5:45 am
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36238 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 6:38 am to
Let's assume Donald Trump is everything the Democrats say he is. The candidate they ran in 2016 lost to this man. The Democrats lost because they ran the most unpopular politician in modern American history.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 6:44 am to
I am a very simple person (on many levels). I just need to know, was I a Deplorable before or after the Russians influenced my vote?
Posted by themunch
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 6:46 am to
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The candidate they ran in 2016 lost to this man. The Democrats lost because they ran the most unpopular politician in modern American history.


And they cheated to do that as well.
This post was edited on 2/10/18 at 6:49 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 6:47 am to
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...he has uncovered two criminals already.
And what are these crimes he has uncovered?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42800 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 6:51 am to
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If you arent aware of the indictments then perhaps a Google search would help more than our back and forth.


Go ahead - define these indictments.

Google will help you find a description.

You are so proud of them that you continually refer to them as "proof" of something, but you never define the 'something.'

Go ahead - tell us how bad these 'criminals' are that were discovered by Mueller.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 6:55 am to
That doctored video of Hillary being chunked in a van like a side of beef which was doctored and edited in a Russian propaganda lab was the tipping point.

All those photo shopped videos of her head wobbling around making her look like a spastic.

Along with the PS pics of her wearing Harry Caray blue lensed anti seizure glasses helped.

But the single most important thing the Russians did was live hack during the debates and over-dubbing her content with babbling drivel which lacked substance making her sound like a misinformed idiot with no clue about the issues at stake was the real killer.

It was amazing no one realized that wasn't her talking.
This post was edited on 2/10/18 at 7:07 am
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80459 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 7:18 am to
The Russians also staged the video in which she shrieked, "Why aren't I up by 50 points?!!"
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 8:57 am to
21 states hacked.....3 which have been reliably democrat since Jesus was a corporal won by a combined 70k votes.....on where Clinton was so far ahead in early voting that it was widely considered mathematically impossible for Trump to win....yet he did, in all 4 cases....by almost exactly 1%.

The entire intelligence community says Russia was and is actively hacking elections in the US. Trump says they did. No one denies it except Putin. It wasn't issues and changing of minds....it was direct meddling in voter roles and vote counts. And it is going to happen again November and we are doing nothing about it because it would indicate Trump was not elected in a legitimate election, period.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 8:59 am to
Holy frick you think they changed actual votes? You are an unhinged loon.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 9:00 am to
What US law enforcement agency investigated the DNC servers?
Posted by IceTiger
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 9:02 am to
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uncovered two criminals already


The FBI getting people to commit obstruction is like bees getting honey...
Obstruction is some weak arse crime made up to get mob bosses on gotchas.

Posted by IceTiger
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Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 9:09 am to
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The entire intelligence community says Russia was and is actively hacking elections in the US. Trump says they did. No one denies it except Putin. It wasn't issues and changing of minds....it was direct meddling in voter roles and vote counts. And it is going to happen again November and we are doing nothing about it because it would indicate Trump was not elected in a legitimate election, period.


Slate, the leftiest lefties completely disagree with you...they say you were hacked

You guys are doing mental gymnastics...
The admin tried to look at voting fraud, but the states wouldn't cooperate.
Your assertion is a complete fantasy, some shite religions are made of...
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21966 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 12:46 pm to
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he Russians used fake news to convince Americans that Hillary Clinton was corrupt by hacking and revealing her emails that she had tried to destroy with a bleach bit and hammers.



There really is no evidence of that fact.

It may bee true but since ZERO of our intelligence/Law enforcement agencies ever got to examine the Servers we have no proof.

The DNC did not allow the FBI to access their servers for a reason!
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17059 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 4:35 pm to
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Its disturbing that they infiltrated our systems and information networks to influence the election in any way.



Has happened for 70 years.
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