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What is your Position on the Border Wall?
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:26 pm
I know the vast majority of the board is as passionate about it as the President is.
I'm really interested as to how you felt about a border wall even before Trump. Specifically:
--Had you thought about a border wall, as a singularly all-important deterrent to Illegal Imigration?
--Does it hold a sacred place in the tenets of conservative values like deficit reduction, small government, tax reform, Obamacare Repeal & Replace/tort reform,and military worship does?
--Should the country of Mexico pay for it and, if not, what is the most we should spend on it?
I would love some genuine answers to discuss
I'm really interested as to how you felt about a border wall even before Trump. Specifically:
--Had you thought about a border wall, as a singularly all-important deterrent to Illegal Imigration?
--Does it hold a sacred place in the tenets of conservative values like deficit reduction, small government, tax reform, Obamacare Repeal & Replace/tort reform,and military worship does?
--Should the country of Mexico pay for it and, if not, what is the most we should spend on it?
I would love some genuine answers to discuss
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:27 pm to EthanL
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What is your Position on the Border Wall?
style over substance
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:28 pm to EthanL
I'm more left wing and I fully support a border wall.
A country must manage its borders. Plus the lack of a wall makes people point to it (the lack of it) and say that it is proof the government does not care about the common man.
Build the wall.
A country must manage its borders. Plus the lack of a wall makes people point to it (the lack of it) and say that it is proof the government does not care about the common man.
Build the wall.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:28 pm to EthanL
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--Had you thought about a border wall, as a singularly all-important deterrent to Illegal Imigration?
It's one leg of the stool along with e-verify and visa enforcement. It's not the end all be all but it's been approved by congress for some time so lets build the fricking thing.
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--Does it hold a sacred place in the tenets of conservative values like deficit reduction, small government, tax reform, Obamacare Repeal & Replace/tort reform,and military worship does?
Enforcing our borders? Yes
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--Should the country of Mexico pay for it and, if not, what is the most we should spend on it?
It'd be great if they did but honestly don't expect them to
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:29 pm to EthanL
Waste of money, logistically impossible, and Mexico will never pay.
So I'm all for it!
So I'm all for it!
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:29 pm to EthanL
Put on Texas', NM, AZ & Cali's southern borders
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:29 pm to EthanL
I'm in favor, por favor.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:29 pm to EthanL
Tbh... I never considered a wall necessary until Hussein abandoned the concept of borders. At that point, I realized a physical barrier was needed when a single politician could cast aside national security with a pen & a phone.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:29 pm to EthanL
Illegal aliens pouring over the borders has been the single most frustrating issue for me as an adult. Why is it even a political issue? They're illegal, for frick's sake! That makes them criminals. All of them.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:30 pm to EthanL
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What is your Position on the Border Wall?
I'll be on the north side of it
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:30 pm to EthanL
I hope this administration makes it a priority to build the wall first, then help the people affected by Hurricane Harvey. Or do whatever will help lift the President's approval ratings. MAGA!
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:30 pm to EthanL
North
Ah dang it
Securing your nations borders is never a bad thing. Much could be done with the stroke of a pen but DC doesn't agree. Using a combo of walls, fence, boots and surveillance all helps to curtail illegal products from entering. Better bigger and faster checkpoints would help. Ports need a major upgrade in boots and technology too. Its not just one thing that fixes this.
Ah dang it
Securing your nations borders is never a bad thing. Much could be done with the stroke of a pen but DC doesn't agree. Using a combo of walls, fence, boots and surveillance all helps to curtail illegal products from entering. Better bigger and faster checkpoints would help. Ports need a major upgrade in boots and technology too. Its not just one thing that fixes this.
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:30 pm to EthanL
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Had you thought about a border wall, as a singularly all-important deterrent to Illegal Imigration?
No. I thought of land mines two years ago and posted it here.
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Does it hold a sacred place in the tenets of conservative values like deficit reduction, small government, tax reform, Obamacare Repeal & Replace/tort reform,and military worship does?
It holds a sacred place in the tenets of conservative values like national sovereignty.
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Should the country of Mexico pay for it and, if not, what is the most we should spend on it?
Yes, Mexico should pay for it.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:31 pm to EthanL
Well on my vacation I can guard a few hundred yards on the top!
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:31 pm to EthanL
Boondoggle of the first order.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:32 pm to EthanL
Its not necessary if the laws are actually followed. Unfortunately too many politicians refuse to follow the laws and face no repercussions for doing so.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:33 pm to EthanL
Hopefully, on the U.S. side of it.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:33 pm to EthanL
Do you have a door on your abode, E? Not rocket science, buddy. Throw a great party, and don't police who comes in...you know what happens.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:34 pm to EthanL
The concept of an actual, physical concrete/brick/barbed wire wall is stupid and about as inefficient a means of border monitoring as you can get, IMO.
The concept of a "wall" consisting of physical barriers, electronic monitoring, manned incremental checkpoints, and vehicle stations to apprehend and enforce what is seen by the e-monitoring, plus whatever other cool surveillance tech I don't know about, is very much needed, IMO.
The concept of a "wall" consisting of physical barriers, electronic monitoring, manned incremental checkpoints, and vehicle stations to apprehend and enforce what is seen by the e-monitoring, plus whatever other cool surveillance tech I don't know about, is very much needed, IMO.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:34 pm to EthanL
I think the wall is mostly a great campaign rally cry and not the best and most cost effective way to control immigration.
However, walls are a symbolic deterrent and the Hungarian wall appears to have had success there. It also has the benefit of the next open border President not being able to do anything about it unless they tear it down.
I always knew Trump was full of shite about the Mexico thing. The wall is a drop in the bucket with as much money as we waste on shite, so I don't have a problem with the cost.
Overall, I'm pretty mixed and don't have a super strong opinion either way. I do want illegal immigration stopped completely though - however that needs to be achieved.
However, walls are a symbolic deterrent and the Hungarian wall appears to have had success there. It also has the benefit of the next open border President not being able to do anything about it unless they tear it down.
I always knew Trump was full of shite about the Mexico thing. The wall is a drop in the bucket with as much money as we waste on shite, so I don't have a problem with the cost.
Overall, I'm pretty mixed and don't have a super strong opinion either way. I do want illegal immigration stopped completely though - however that needs to be achieved.
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