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re: What if the Donald Sterling situation was reversed?
Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:48 pm to Zach
Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:48 pm to Zach
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I don't care about Sterling. I don't care about the NBA. What bothers me is the competition amongst white sports writers and broadcasters to see who can be the most outraged.
ESPN does the same shite with the gay movement.
Whenever a player comes out as gay or some player takes the side of the gay rights movement it seems that a dozen different writers at ESPN.com have to come out with their own piece about how historic and great this is and how much progress we are making, then ESPN runs a bunch of SportsCenter segments about how great and historic it is, in an effort to show how tolerant and pro-gay and open minded they are I guess
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:52 pm to Lsut81
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I think Rivers along with the team should refuse to play and demand trades in the off season, unless Sterling agrees to put the team up for sale asap
And I think many of them will demand trades. Refusing to play only saves Sterling money by not having to pay them.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:54 pm to goldennugget
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ESPN does the same shite with the gay movement.
Whenever a player comes out as gay or some player takes the side of the gay rights movement it seems that a dozen different writers at ESPN.com have to come out with their own piece about how historic and great this is and how much progress we are making, then ESPN runs a bunch of SportsCenter segments about how great and historic it is, in an effort to show how tolerant and pro-gay and open minded they are I guess
The two situations are not relatable at all. And these writers' jobs are to write about sports news. What do you expect them to do?
Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:56 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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And I think many of them will demand trades.
No they won't.
The NBA will fine/punish Sterling in some way. That ends the controversy.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:56 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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The two situations are not relatable at all. And these writers' jobs are to write about sports news. What do you expect them to do?
Do we really need a dozen writers at ESPN falling over eachother to write fluff each time some athlete comes out gay? One or two articles would be fine
Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:57 pm to T
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if they were that passionate about the issue they could just not play. by trying to win all they are doing is supporting Donald sterling
In any other case I might agree, but this is playoff time and if these players decide to stand up to Sterling by not playing, they will certainly piss off an entire fan base that has already paid to see them play.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:02 pm to T
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yet they still accept his money.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:19 pm to Tactical1
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In any other case I might agree
Why? They haven't been discriminated against. The comments weren't directed at them. The comments weren't even public.
All that happened is that they "found out" that the owner of the Clippers is a racist. More specifically, he doesn't want his hooker being seen with black people in public.
You think it makes sense to stop playing because of that?
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:23 pm to moneyg
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You think it makes sense to stop playing because of that?
No, I don't think they should stop playing.
I just wouldn't blame them if they didn't in another scenario that didn't involve playoff time.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:27 pm to Tactical1
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No, I don't think they should stop playing.
I just wouldn't blame them if they didn't in another scenario that didn't involve playoff time.
...even though the players were not discriminated against...and, weren't affected in any way working for the man?
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:29 pm to moneyg
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All that happened is that they "found out" that the owner of the Clippers is a racist
Yeah, that's all... Like that isn't a big thing
Again, people like to act like they care about something, but won't prove it if it means they could be punished in some way.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:29 pm to moneyg
No, I would not blame them.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:33 pm to Lsut81
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Yeah, that's all... Like that isn't a big thing
It's not a big thing.
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Again, people like to act like they care about something, but won't prove it if it means they could be punished in some way.
ok?
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:36 pm to moneyg
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It's not a big thing.
Its not a big thing that it comes out that the owner of your organization has negative/racist views against the people that ultimately make him his money?
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:42 pm to Lsut81
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Its not a big thing that it comes out that the owner of your organization has negative/racist views against the people that ultimately make him his money?
Everything is relative. I mean, it's not a good thing. It makes Sterling look like a fool. It's bad PR for the NBA and the Clipper organization.
But, beyond that, it doesn't affect much. His personal views apparently haven't affected the way the players have been treated, etc. This isn't a case where he's decided he won't hire black people in the organization, etc.
This is an issue where someone overheard that doesn't want his public sex toy to be seen with black people.
Any player who would decide that they simply can't work for the Clipper organization any longer would be a fool, IMO.
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:44 pm to moneyg
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It's not a big thing.
Guys like Blake Griffin and Chris Paul are like brand names themselves. If I was a brand like Blake Griffin and found out that I was employed by a guy whose opinions could cast a bad light on my brand, I would think it is a big deal. Hell the guy is already losing sponsors.
These guys could be in a hell of a postilion if they manage to win the finals. Imagine how awkward that trophy presentation will be.
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:45 pm to moneyg
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But, beyond that, it doesn't affect much. His personal views apparently haven't affected the way the players have been treated, etc. This isn't a case where he's decided he won't hire black people in the organization, etc.
I think he has the right to say whatever the hell he wants, just as I think the players have the right to do whatever they want.
I just think there are frick ton of people who "Believe" in causes, but when the rubber meets the road, they won't go through with it.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:45 pm to goldennugget
I think this should be a non issue for 3 reasons.
1. You can never prove this is his voice, people can do other peoples voices, it happens all the time, so you can never have a smoking gun as long as denies it.
2. Maybe he had an “ ulterior motive ” and only told her he didn't want her to be seen with black guys in the arena, but his real motive was he thought she might be cheating on HIS OLD AZZ with a young stud. JUST SAYING
3. Who cares about the NBA
1. You can never prove this is his voice, people can do other peoples voices, it happens all the time, so you can never have a smoking gun as long as denies it.
2. Maybe he had an “ ulterior motive ” and only told her he didn't want her to be seen with black guys in the arena, but his real motive was he thought she might be cheating on HIS OLD AZZ with a young stud. JUST SAYING
3. Who cares about the NBA
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:49 pm to Tactical1
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Guys like Blake Griffin and Chris Paul are like brand names themselves. If I was a brand like Blake Griffin and found out that I was employed by a guy whose opinions could cast a bad light on my brand, I would think it is a big deal. Hell the guy is already losing sponsors.
That's a reasonable point...although, like I said earlier, both of those guys could have positioned themselves as being above this issue and probably very easily could have improved their personal brand.
Having said that, nobody is making this argument. Nobody is saying it's just a bad business decision.
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These guys could be in a hell of a postilion if they manage to win the finals. Imagine how awkward that trophy presentation will be.
It would be a huge opportunity for them to rise above the controversy again.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:59 pm to goldennugget
but it wasn't.
I hate I mean hate these stupid fricking hypothetical pieces of shite examples. Talk about what is actually happening. We can sit all day and dream up and speculate what if.
I hate I mean hate these stupid fricking hypothetical pieces of shite examples. Talk about what is actually happening. We can sit all day and dream up and speculate what if.
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