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What do you feel are the 3 top principles the GOP currently stands for?
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:25 am
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:25 am
Growing up in a conservative Republican family, I've voted pretty close to straight ticket R my entire life. It's been my belief that the GOP stood for the things below. I'm curious what most of you believe the core principles of the GOP are currently and if you feel like those principles have changed. I'd also be interested to know if what your personal 3 most important government principles are and if they match up with your party.
Limited federal government with fiscally sound economic policy
-A limited but efficient federal government
-Transparency
-Lower taxes
-Reduced gov. spending
-Low gov. debt
-Preference for states rights
Individual Liberty / Personal Accountability
-The idea of the American Dream and that everyone has the opportunity to make of themselves what they want.
-So long as you aren't infringing on other's rights, the govt. can't dictate how you live your life.
-You are responsible for the decisions you make and everyone should be held accountable and equal under the rule of law.
Capitalism with a market regulations as limited as possible (as opposed to completely free market)
-The general view that the market will dictate its demands and competition will ensure the most efficient supply of those demands.
-Striving for a free market but with some restrictions to address its major criticisms for the overall public interest like preventing monopolies/oligopolies, and protection some things like like access to clean air/water.
Currently, I feel like the GOP principles in practice
Capitalism with a market regulations as limited as possible (as opposed to completely free market)
-The general view that the market will dictate its demands and competition will ensure the most efficient supply of those demands.
-Striving for a free market but with some restrictions to address its major criticisms for the overall public interest like preventing monopolies/oligopolies, and protection some things like like access to clean air/water.
Social Conservatism
-Christian Values
-Anti-Drugs
-Anti-abortion
-Family Values
-Anti-LGBTQ
Limited Federal Government but with an expansion of Executive Power
-Lower Taxes
-Less oversight/transparency
As of late I feel like the GOP acquiesced to some of its core principles, especially, sound fiscal policy, limited federal government, and personal liberty in order to prioritize and implement specific policy goals which at times, run at odds with its other core principles.
For instance, I want taxes as low as possible but not without also reducing the expenses of the government by making it more efficient and at the expense of increasing the debt. I also understand there's valid economic debate that you can use debt to operate most efficiently but in general, we're better off making more than we spend and we're a long way from that.
One of the biggest diversions I've seen is the lack of a demand for government transparency which had always been a staple of Republican views. Especially with the current federal stimulus spending, I feel like everyone should be demanding a full accountability of where all this money has been spent to prevent fraud and abuse.
I just also wish we would be smarter with the money the federal government spends to make sure that we're receiving a return on that investment. As an example, putting money towards education, especially early education, eventually lowers the number of people in poverty and as a result, reduces the money that would be spent in the future on social safety net programs. There's also random things like why we're still subsidizing oil companies when investments in renewable energy would, long term, free up all the money currently spent on energy needs, to be invested elsewhere.
Overall I guess I'm just frustrated with a lot of things in politics these days, along with everyone else I'm sure. I know there's hypocrisy with the Democrats as well but as a long time Republican, I just want to be better than that and sometimes it's good for all of us to look in the mirror and self evaluate.
Limited federal government with fiscally sound economic policy
-A limited but efficient federal government
-Transparency
-Lower taxes
-Reduced gov. spending
-Low gov. debt
-Preference for states rights
Individual Liberty / Personal Accountability
-The idea of the American Dream and that everyone has the opportunity to make of themselves what they want.
-So long as you aren't infringing on other's rights, the govt. can't dictate how you live your life.
-You are responsible for the decisions you make and everyone should be held accountable and equal under the rule of law.
Capitalism with a market regulations as limited as possible (as opposed to completely free market)
-The general view that the market will dictate its demands and competition will ensure the most efficient supply of those demands.
-Striving for a free market but with some restrictions to address its major criticisms for the overall public interest like preventing monopolies/oligopolies, and protection some things like like access to clean air/water.
Currently, I feel like the GOP principles in practice
Capitalism with a market regulations as limited as possible (as opposed to completely free market)
-The general view that the market will dictate its demands and competition will ensure the most efficient supply of those demands.
-Striving for a free market but with some restrictions to address its major criticisms for the overall public interest like preventing monopolies/oligopolies, and protection some things like like access to clean air/water.
Social Conservatism
-Christian Values
-Anti-Drugs
-Anti-abortion
-Family Values
-Anti-LGBTQ
Limited Federal Government but with an expansion of Executive Power
-Lower Taxes
-Less oversight/transparency
As of late I feel like the GOP acquiesced to some of its core principles, especially, sound fiscal policy, limited federal government, and personal liberty in order to prioritize and implement specific policy goals which at times, run at odds with its other core principles.
For instance, I want taxes as low as possible but not without also reducing the expenses of the government by making it more efficient and at the expense of increasing the debt. I also understand there's valid economic debate that you can use debt to operate most efficiently but in general, we're better off making more than we spend and we're a long way from that.
One of the biggest diversions I've seen is the lack of a demand for government transparency which had always been a staple of Republican views. Especially with the current federal stimulus spending, I feel like everyone should be demanding a full accountability of where all this money has been spent to prevent fraud and abuse.
I just also wish we would be smarter with the money the federal government spends to make sure that we're receiving a return on that investment. As an example, putting money towards education, especially early education, eventually lowers the number of people in poverty and as a result, reduces the money that would be spent in the future on social safety net programs. There's also random things like why we're still subsidizing oil companies when investments in renewable energy would, long term, free up all the money currently spent on energy needs, to be invested elsewhere.
Overall I guess I'm just frustrated with a lot of things in politics these days, along with everyone else I'm sure. I know there's hypocrisy with the Democrats as well but as a long time Republican, I just want to be better than that and sometimes it's good for all of us to look in the mirror and self evaluate.
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 11:26 am
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:26 am to NDA13112
#1. Give me more
#2. frick you
#3. See #1.
#2. frick you
#3. See #1.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:27 am to NDA13112
ACTUALLY stands for?
you mean does something about them rather than react to what the democrats do?
This may be a trick question.
you mean does something about them rather than react to what the democrats do?
This may be a trick question.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:28 am to NDA13112
Principles? lol
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:29 am to NDA13112
When you say GOP, are you talking about the establishment or Trump’s GOP? Two different beasts here.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:30 am to NDA13112
Unfortunately the GOP has given up on values and has become primarily focused on procedural issues.
The big wigs think arguing about marginal tax rate changes will fire people up to vote. The GOP will never dominate the left until they start attacking the culture the way the left has. The left dominates every aspect of culture because they aren’t scared. The GOP is terrified of making a stand about something in the culture.
The big wigs think arguing about marginal tax rate changes will fire people up to vote. The GOP will never dominate the left until they start attacking the culture the way the left has. The left dominates every aspect of culture because they aren’t scared. The GOP is terrified of making a stand about something in the culture.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:33 am to NDA13112
quote:
What do you feel are the 3 top principles the GOP currently stands for?
Should be:
1) Voter ID.
2) Law and Order in cities.
3) China is asshoe.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:33 am to NDA13112
1. Even though you've been kicked in the nuts 1,212,811 times by the Dems- keep showing you are the bigger person. It's OK when they drag their nuts across your face, in fact they're used to it.
2. Keep surrendering. It's statesmanlike and you might get you some good press, and might get the other side to deal fairly....even though that has never happened.
3. Play to the press, eventually they'll see you're a good guy and treat you fairly.
I can't think of much else they've done consistently enough to call it a principle.
2. Keep surrendering. It's statesmanlike and you might get you some good press, and might get the other side to deal fairly....even though that has never happened.
3. Play to the press, eventually they'll see you're a good guy and treat you fairly.
I can't think of much else they've done consistently enough to call it a principle.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:33 am to NDA13112
White Supremacy
Literally Nazis
Putting Kids in Cages
-CNN, probably
Literally Nazis
Putting Kids in Cages
-CNN, probably
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 11:34 am
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:34 am to NDA13112
You need to change “GOP” to “Conservatives”. They aren’t the same
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:34 am to TheFonz
Either or both. I guess I was talking about the traditional GOP as compared to the current GOP focused more around Trump
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:35 am to NDA13112
1. Keep power
2. Protect the top 1%
If you would have asked the same about the Dems I would have given the same. I think there are good people on both sides that would like to change the system. Those in power won’t let that happen though
Both parties only care about keeping power at this point.
2. Protect the top 1%
If you would have asked the same about the Dems I would have given the same. I think there are good people on both sides that would like to change the system. Those in power won’t let that happen though
Both parties only care about keeping power at this point.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:37 am to NDA13112
1. Israel
2. Cheap labor
3. Not appearing "racist"
2. Cheap labor
3. Not appearing "racist"
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:38 am to NDA13112
Honestly I have no idea what the GOP stands for
Voters maybe all the things you listed
GOP leadership and politicians? Not a chance.
Voters maybe all the things you listed
GOP leadership and politicians? Not a chance.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:43 am to Mrwhodat
quote:
1) Voter ID.
Vital to protect elections. It's frustrating that the president just states the problem and hasn't helped to find a solution. Especially when there is a stalled bill in congress for additional funding for election security measures.
quote:
2) Law and Order in cities.
I agree the federal government should be able to send it people to protect federal property and enforce federal law (civil rights comes to mind).
Ignoring the current political landscape, do you believe the federal government should be able to send in federal troops at the opposition of state and local leaders unrelated to federal property and federal laws or as a general "restore law and order"?
I feel like as a states rights supporter, the voters of that state should vote to elect state and local leaders that support their views and aside from the items above, the federal government should only be brought in upon request.
quote:
3) China is asshoe.
That they are. There's a bunch of assholes out there.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:44 am to ProfFrink
quote:
1. Keep power
2. Protect the top 1%
This is the goal of both parties, which is why it is comical for people to think Joe Biden will usher in some new era of socialism.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:45 am to NDA13112
Mo money
Mo power
Less freedom
Mo power
Less freedom
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:48 am to NDA13112
What the say they stand for and what they actually do when elected are two completely different animals.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:50 am to NDA13112
quote:
Vital to protect elections. It's frustrating that the president just states the problem and hasn't helped to find a solution. Especially when there is a stalled bill in congress for additional funding for election security measures.
They need to bring photo ID to vote that's the solution. Is he supposed to cave on that ?
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:52 am to NDA13112
quote:quote:
1) Voter ID.
Vital to protect elections. It's frustrating that the president just states the problem and hasn't helped to find a solution. Especially when there is a stalled bill in congress for additional funding for election security measures.
Isn't this controlled at the State level? How much power does the President have to force State's to adopt some sort of Voter ID law? Maybe threaten some sort of federal funding, but unless that funding is tied directly to federal voting, I'm not sure how constitutional that would be.
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