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re: "Wealth Inequality in America: Its worse than you think" - Fortune

Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118743 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:15 pm to
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Wealth Inequality = Another meaningless liberal bitch fest


Bitching about wealth inequality spans all human history. It plays on the temptation to be envious. Some political leaders were very good at it like Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, and Chavez to name a few.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:16 pm to
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i am not advocating for these policies, I am just explaining them. Keynesian economics works very well

You are not explaining Keynesian economics in a form that any macroeconomist would recognize it, unless they had just emerged from a 40-year retirement/grave.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:23 pm to
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debt has skyrocketed over the last few years, which makes it all out of whack.

Ha, nice try, but old Keynesian theory would say that public debt would be offset by INCREASING private savings. Making us even LESS likely to see a declining net savings rate.

Meanwhile:



And for households, check out how saving rates have moved with disposable income:



LINK
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 4:25 pm
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:31 pm to
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Read your post quoted above 4 times. And then ask yourself "Do I actually sound like a pussy when I post."


I don't buy my alligator at cajun "delis" or "specialty boutiques".

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260225 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:36 pm to
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For instance, retailers are once again bracing for a miserable holiday shopping season due mostly to the fact that most Americans simply aren’t seeing their incomes rise


Weird, I've heard the opposite.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18064 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:37 pm to
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Weird, I've heard the opposite.


Me, too.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:40 pm to
Well maybe if you quit crying so much and did some work you'd have some more money!
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105403 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:44 pm to
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Ralph_Wiggum


you're a retard
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41101 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:55 pm to
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it may not be caused by any one political philosophy, but the solution, if there is to be one, will almost certainly have to come through politics.


The only way to correct the gap is to let the market fix it. Politics from both parties have caused the problem. The issue is that it's not a "problem" for the people that created the problem. They reap the benefits of it.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 5:10 pm to
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Daddy government can't make you rich.


Sure it can. Many a "self-made" millionaire (and/or billionaire) has gotten there by directly benefiting from government involvement/largesse/etc.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41101 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 5:14 pm to
Exactly. The wealth gap is a problem that gov't has created. They are the ones that benefit from it. Why would they fix it?
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 5:26 pm to
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Argentina is a third world country. See my post above.



No it is not.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 5:27 pm to
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conservatives still need to worry. argentina in 2001 had serious economic issues, and basically had a socialist revolt.



Brazil just again elected a socialist as president and it has worse problems with income inequality and racism. So if conservatives want to avoid a socialist president they need to address income inequality and racism.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57187 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 5:28 pm to
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No it is not.

Fernando “FerFAL” Aguirre would strongly disagree.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57187 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 5:31 pm to
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I think there is an argument that as wealth inequality grows and the middle and lower classes lose ground and our politics become more controlled by money you set the stage for a populist like Hugo Chavez or going back in the day to a local socialist - Huey Long.
nope. It has a lot more to do with political participation. There are a lot more "non rich" people. They can vote "the rich" right the f*ck out of control.

Our lack of participation has fallen to the point that much of that "non rich" constituency says they can't be bothered to even show an ID.


This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 5:33 pm
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 5:33 pm to
It seems to me that socialist revolutionaries would have a vested interest in class divisions and racial tension

In fact they wouldn't even have to be recognizable as "revolutionaries"

Do you know what I'm saying?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57187 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 5:34 pm to
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rich people invest it, and that is a problem for our economy.
Holeee fuk. No wonder we're screwed.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 5:35 pm
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 5:44 pm to
Once the balanced gets tipped to where most think the top or even the middle isn't reachable anymore. It's the time capitalism might fail.

It's a shame many Mama and Papa stores have fallen, or the med stores don't know your name, and the banks have no clue who your are except for a number. Is it corporate America or Government regulations making things to tough for little business. Who knows, I'm no economic expert, but maybe instead of bailing out the big boys next time. Let them crash. let the thick forest burn and new growth will arise from the ashes. Sure it woudl hurt at 1st, but maybe we'd be a healthier forest from it. Just like a forest is after it burns when it's to thick. Many people don't think the American dream is possible these days, and that's not good. Spreading that monopoly around that huge business and banks hold on to can be a good thing, can't it? Who knows? just throwing a few thoughts out there.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 5:57 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123869 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 6:02 pm to
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it may not be caused by any one political philosophy, but the solution, if there is to be one, will almost certainly have to come through politics.


Used a big chart so there would be no way
for the "wealth inequity" socialists to
claim they'd not seen it.

Consider progress of the 20th percentile since 1947.

In 2007 inflation adjusted dollars, the 20th percentile
more than doubled its income from $12K/yr in 1947 to $27K in 2007.

Put another way, 2007's 20th percentile has an income
equivalent to 1947's 60th percentile.

Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 6:04 pm to
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but the solution, if there is to be one, will almost certainly have to come through politics.


you sound like one of those people confused into thinking that politicians "fix" things, when what they actually do is break them.

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