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Was there any single thing that Hillary Clinton would like to do over?

Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:15 pm
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:15 pm
We know the whole e-mail scandal probably cost her a lot of votes, but she did plenty of other things that could have cost her the election.

Is there any single thing or strategy (other than the e-mail server) that if she could do it over, would have resulted in her winning?

For examples:

1.) If she hadn't made the little basket of deplorables comment.

2.) If she hadn't fainted in public, putting her health in question.

3.) If she hadn't legitimized BLM when police officers were getting killed by equating the two sides

4.) If she hadn't continuously emphasized, "a pathway to citizenship in the first 100 days" as the only detail she ever talked about with regard to her "comprehensive" immigration reform plan.

I think that #4 played a huge role in her loss. I think the Democrat strategy of carving out constituency groups in a divide and conquer strategy is unraveling, and their strategy of growing their hispanic voting bloc via illegal immigration has turned the blue collar working class against her, because they feel that their jobs are going to go to hispanics who will do them for less money. The Democrats now have to choose between the two, rather than rely on both groups voting for them in overwhelming numbers.

Hillary Clinton did not come out with a border enforcement strategy, other than there would be no wall, and people took that as her implicit approval of open borders.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 1:16 pm
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:16 pm to
The election prolly
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101487 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:16 pm to
I would suggest, never buying into the illusion that she was ever a capable national level politician.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98891 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

1.) If she hadn't made the little basket of deplorables comment.


This, and essentially taking white blue collar union voters for granted.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:17 pm to
If I were her, Benghazi would be my number one do over but I have a soul so...
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 1:19 pm
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11471 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:17 pm to
failed to heed the counsel of WJC and opted to listen to the non-pragmatists
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76529 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:18 pm to
Shoulda held on to the pussy grabbing video a week longer.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:19 pm to
If we are limiting this to the campaign, separating the family from the Clinton Foundation back in 2015.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Was there any single thing that Hillary Clinton would like to do over?
Celebrating her November 8th victory following the final debate on Oct19th. Then taking the next 10 days off until Comey's letter was sent out just as she did in the period leading up to the debates.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:25 pm to
it's hard to single out any one thing

but if you could only choose 1, I bet she wishes she had "deplorables" back

at that point it was laughable to even the staunchest democrat every time she claimed the moral high ground with things like "when they go low, we go high" and it goes without saying that insulting voters was really fricking stupid. she wasn't winning any one fake poll enough to insult trump voters.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 1:26 pm
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37657 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:25 pm to
Coal Miners
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95833 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:25 pm to
The whole Hillary experience was so unbelievably flawed that you couldn't fix it with just one change.

The closest thing to that would probably be an attempt to tack toward the middle and salvage the rust belt states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, etc. But that would have lowered her turnout of other groups because her coalition in general is hostile toward middle class and lower class white America.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67493 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:26 pm to
#1 will always be.....don't be a shitty human being
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35413 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:27 pm to
I should add: Tim Kaine. If she selects Bernie as VP, it wouldn't have been close.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

Shoulda held on to the pussy grabbing video a week longer.
should've released it during the primaries. republican voters would've moved away from him fearing he'd be toast, and she would've gotten someone like Rubio or cruz that she could steamroll.

she wanted him to win thinking he was easy pickings...
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Was there any single thing that Hillary Clinton would like to do over?


probably hundreds of things could have swung the election. It was a very close election. Flip a few votes in Michigan/Wisconsin/PA, and boom she wins it.

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

1.) If she hadn't made the little basket of deplorables comment.



This. I don't think we've had a presidential candidate in recent history refer to people that support their opponent as racist, xenophobic, homophobic, sexist, etc. We've seen surrogates, but not an actual candidate display enough unadulterated contempt and hate for a huge part of the population.

People noticed. Democrats brushed it off and tried to draw false equivalency with Trump's tweet of the day....but middle America heard that. The Trump campaign definitely heard it. It made painting Democrats as coastal elitists who are out of touch with the middle class easy for Trump's campaign.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101487 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

should've released it during the primaries. republican voters would've moved away from him fearing he'd be toast, and she would've gotten someone like Rubio or cruz that she could steamroll.

she wanted him to win thinking he was easy pickings...


I think this is probably correct.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Flip a few votes in Michigan/Wisconsin/PA, and boom she wins it.




Sure. Flip "a few" votes in Florida, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Ohio.....and she had it in the bag.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

should've released it during the primaries. republican voters would've moved away from him fearing he'd be toast, and she would've gotten someone like Rubio or cruz that she could steamroll.

she wanted him to win thinking he was easy pickings...


I think this is probably correct.


I think she would have lost to rubio, not sure about cruz.
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