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re: Was just told President Trump was a war-dodger...

Posted on 9/30/17 at 6:21 pm to
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/30/17 at 6:21 pm to
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He's a coward. No need to defend it.


Once again, I've only defended the "fake medical diagnosis." I've said he clearly did not want to go, and am not arguing your right to view that as cowardice.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72675 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 6:28 pm to
Cool, so he's a coward.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 6:31 pm to
In your opinion
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72675 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 6:34 pm to
The evidence supports it.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 6:42 pm to
Supports that he did not want to go to Vietnam, absolutely. He used the resources available to him to avoid going. Whether that makes his a coward is up to the individual

How many on this board calling him a coward have served, how many in Iraq/Afghanistan specifically? You may have, I don't know. But for most that didnt they didn't have to avoid it because it was voluntary, so they have the luxury to call others under different circumstances a coward.

That lifestyle is not for everyone, and I'm glad it's currently a choice unlike back in Vietnam. We are talking about wars not specifically in defense of the homeland.
This post was edited on 9/30/17 at 6:51 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72675 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 6:50 pm to
Supports that he's a coward.

quote:

How many on this board calling him a coward have served, how many in Iraq/Afghanistan specifically? You may have, I don't know.


I have, in both and others.

He's not just a coward because of his fake bone spurs.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46338 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 6:53 pm to
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Are you an idiot? Most college kids got out of serving in Vietnam


Yep! Knew several dudes slightly older than myself who used that exact angle to get out of going to Nam.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 6:55 pm to
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I have, in both and others.


Good on you, I served too. You are clearly not a coward but because others haven't doesn't mean they have to be.

quote:

He's not just a coward because of his fake bone spurs.


Ignoring the fake bones spurs comment because we don't know, you are free to bring up those other reasons for discussion if you want. I may agree with you on those, I may not.
This post was edited on 9/30/17 at 6:56 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72675 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 6:56 pm to
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Ignoring the fake bones spurs comment because we don't know, you are free to bring up those other reasons for discussion if you want. I may agree with you on those, I may not.


I, and others already have. You are free to read the thread.
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4777 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 7:03 pm to
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inciteful


This doesn’t mean what you think it means
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
7856 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 7:10 pm to
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quote:
As a person who voted for Trump


Yeah ok sure


You know how I know he didn't vote for Trump
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 7:17 pm to
Then I will get to those when I can go back and read the 8 page thread. The discussion between me and you involved cowardice due to (fake) bone spurs, as that is what you specifically replied to in calling him a coward. And evolved into a more general "does avoiding service make you a coward"
This post was edited on 9/30/17 at 7:19 pm
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5601 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 7:17 pm to
I think Trump is horrible but you can't blame him for trying to get out of the draft. Every kid that could did it too.
The poor working class kids that couldn't afford college were the ones that got shipped off.

Of course he also needs to shut his face when criticizing the ones that did. But that's Trump. He runs his head too much.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72675 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 7:27 pm to
I don't care what it involved. You stated I could bring in other information. I let you know that it's already available.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 7:40 pm to
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I don't care what it involved


what our back and forth involved is all that was relevant to our back and forth.

quote:

You stated I could bring in other information.


I did, when you mentioned there was more you wanted to include

quote:

I let you know that it's already available.


Fair enough, I had not read the whole thread and will look into it
This post was edited on 9/30/17 at 7:46 pm
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23660 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 7:50 pm to
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I don't think I can criticize any man who used a legal maneuver to avoid having to go there.

so avoid serving your country, OK...

kneel during the anthem, akin to devil worship....


what in the actual frick?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72675 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

what our back and forth involved is all that was relevant to our back and forth.


Wrong. When you ask for information that was already provided, that information is relevant.

Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 7:59 pm to
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Wrong. When you ask for information that was already provided, that information is relevant.


Not to our discussion about bone spurs making him a coward. That is what you literally responded to and is what I was discussing

Once you said he is a coward for reasons other than his bone spurs then yes other information became relevant. I asked what information and you let me know it was in the prior pages of the thread. Nothing more nothing less
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72675 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 8:19 pm to
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Once you said he is a coward for reasons other than his bone spurs then yes other information became relevant.


It was already relevant because it was already in the thread. It doesn't disappear because of a reply to one of your posts.

I shouldn't have to explain how discussions work.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 8:35 pm to
I wasn't arguing those things. I was arguing using bone spurs to avoid the draft, mentioned it repeatedly. It was when you mentioned other things that other things became relevant

I shouldn't have to explain how our discussion went. I'm down to alternate attempting to get the last word though.
This post was edited on 9/30/17 at 8:37 pm
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