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re: Was Esteban Santiago acting on behalf of radical Islam?

Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:54 am to
Posted by Yaboylaroy
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:54 am to
No no no...blacks and latinos commit crimes too. Radical muslims just want to create an Islamic state.








Sarcasm every race commits crimes. But not every religion is hell bent on taking over the world and doing it through terror.
This post was edited on 1/9/17 at 11:56 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:54 am to
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He has a lot of classic symptoms of schizophrenia.

yeah i mean he seems legit schitzo and if that's true, it's easy to see why at points he identified with ISIS and other delusions. he's probably identified as a TON of different concepts adn causes over tim
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146580 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:55 am to
The media was seemingly brushing off his ties to terrorists. It is not making HEADLINES that he was in contact with ISIS. They were only emphasizing his comments in the past and brushing it all off as some PTSD from the Iraq war. IOWs he is crazy...but aren't all terrorists crazy?

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Hours before his first court appearance, Esteban Santiago has told his interrogators that he had been in contact with the ISIS terror group online.

In November, Santiago showed up at the FBI's Anchorage office claiming that "his mind was being controlled by a U.S. intelligence agency," according to Marlin Ritzman, special agent in charge of that office, who was speaking at a press conference on Saturday.

During that incident, Santiago "appeared agitaged, incoherent and made disjointed statements," but "stated he did not wish to harm anyone," Ritzman said.

ABCNews
This post was edited on 1/9/17 at 11:58 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26694 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:56 am to
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think he was just looney toons


Both can be true.

Not a lot of sane suicide killers (although he lived, he probably didn't expect to)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:57 am to
I WILL SAY THIS (with my tinfoil hat on)

the fact that the media isn't doing their usual frenzy about gun control makes me think that there may be a "radical islamic terror" angle, so they're dumping the whole story before anyone really looks into it so it will die
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:57 am to
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i think he was just looney toons

I agree
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:58 am to
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therefore perpetuating the propaganda that only Muslims commit crimes.



And you're perpetuating the propaganda that conservatives think that only Muslims commit crimes
Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not 6 years old anymore and don't play childish games of left vs. right.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21857 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:00 pm to
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perpetuating the propaganda that only Muslims commit crimes.


No one is that that.

Also, WE(American Citizens) should get to decide who we want in the US. It is not a right for anyone around the world to come here. It is and should be OUR choice.

Don't bother telling me he was a citizen here because that is not what your post was referring to and it is not what I am answering about.


Back to the point. The Muslim ideology and culture is not compatible with the American way of life, culture, or constitution/ideas.

Yes we have plenty of American's who commit crimes and atrocities but we don't have to allow others to come here that will or do.

For you Muslim lovers I have a simple analogy for you.
If I put out a bowl of candy and told you that a one piece per 100 was laced with cyanide would you eat any of them?
Posted by Yaboylaroy
Member since Mar 2010
1830 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:01 pm to
Just saw on Fox that law enforcement "refuses to rule out ties to terrorism"
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:02 pm to
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A liberal told me that radical Islam was not to blame.

I would bet that same liberal sincerely believes southern culture is responsible for Dylann Roof and that he represents every white southerner and their way of thinking.
This post was edited on 1/9/17 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79128 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:03 pm to
I don't think we should be too concerned if he's more crazy than terrorist.

I think that's likely the case, but who knows. My main driving factor is that more terrorist than nutjob likely wouldn't go complain about ISIS controlling his thoughts to the FBI.

But either way, the narrative is the same. He's either a true believer, or he's a nutjob and the ideology of radical Islam is so dangerous that it can aggravate mental illness to acts of terror.
Posted by Wildo Baggins
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2016
128 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:03 pm to
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Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not 6 years old anymore and don't play childish games of left vs. right.


It surely seems like you love playing the left vs right game. You should contribute more of your actual opinion to the board sometimes.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:07 pm to
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I WILL SAY THIS (with my tinfoil hat on)

the fact that the media isn't doing their usual frenzy about gun control makes me think that there may be a "radical islamic terror" angle, so they're dumping the whole story before anyone really looks into it so it will die


The media usually changes stories like these 10-15 times each in a desperate attempt to lock down the Muslim terrorist angle.

Like changing airports, and trying to make us believe that our military regularly enlists Islamic terrorists, etc. etc.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146580 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:08 pm to
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I WILL SAY THIS (with my tinfoil hat on)

the fact that the media isn't doing their usual frenzy about gun control makes me think that there may be a "radical islamic terror" angle, so they're dumping the whole story before anyone really looks into it so it will die

I think this is it. ABC news reporting his ties to ISIS yet it is not in the headlines, Streep is...

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According to a federal affidavit, he was charged with murder and performing an act of violence in an airport serving international civil aviation, for which he could get the death penalty. He was also charged with using his service gun during a crime of violence.

Magistrate Judge Alicia O. Valle found the US military vet indigent and ordered he be represented by a public defender.

wtf is this used his "service" gun crap? And how does a judge determine he is indigent? Does this happen automatically if he says he can't afford a lawyer?
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:08 pm to
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For you Cop lovers I have a simple analogy for you.
If I put out a bowl of candy and told you that a one piece per 100 was laced with cyanide would you eat any of them?



Exactly!

Killed by Police 2017!

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:08 pm to
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The media usually changes stories like these 10-15 times each in a desperate attempt to lock down the Muslim terrorist angle.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24738 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:09 pm to
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he's probably identified as a TON of different concepts adn causes over tim


But only one of those causes led him to commit mass murder...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422006 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:12 pm to
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But only one of those causes led him to commit mass murder...

bruh
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26972 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:12 pm to
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he actually converted to hispanic


Is that what I am doing on Mexican night Fridays??

Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9493 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:12 pm to
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only Muslims commit crimes.

Are we talking about shoplifting you idiot?

Not all muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims.
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