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Virginia receives request for a September rally at the Robert E. Lee monument in Richmond
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:59 am
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:59 am
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quote:Will Rex be there with his dog outfit?
A Confederate heritage organization has asked the state for permission to gather Sept. 16 at Richmond’s Robert E. Lee monument.
The rally would come roughly a month after Saturday’s white nationalist protest descended into violence in Charlottesville.
The Department of General Services has received a request from Americans for Richmond Monument Preservation for a permit to hold an event at the Lee Monument on Monument Avenue, according to Dena Potter, an agency spokeswoman, who said the application is under review and has not been approved.
Potter said the request was submitted by Bragdon Bowling — a former commander of the Virginia Division, Sons of Confederate Veterans. Bowling could not immediately be reached for comment Sunday evening.
Gov. Terry McAuliffe’s office said it could not provide information on Sunday, and Mayor Levar Stoney also declined to comment, referring questions to Capitol Police. Stoney spokesman Jim Nolan said city police and Capitol police will be meeting to discuss the request, but he could not provide further information.
quote:The Veterans will surely be called "White Nationalists, with a touch of the KKK" in the news-even if some of them are black.
Potter said the request was submitted by Bragdon Bowling — a former commander of the Virginia Division, Sons of Confederate Veterans.
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:00 am to cajunangelle
i wish the media would stop giving these protesters (on all sides) attention
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:02 am to cajunangelle
Richmond is a bit of a powder keg. The group that actually requested the permit is generally peaceful, but this could get really ugly if more violent groups latch on. Like way worse than Charlottesville.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:05 am to cajunangelle
This is going to be a shite storm. Coming for Richmond's monuments is going to lead to more violence. I grew up there. There are folks on both sides that will show their asses.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 10:07 am
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:07 am to cajunangelle
This demonstration will not be allowed to proceed. They may end up obtaining the permit through legal channels but the government will ultimately shut it down to score political points against the crackers (and attempt to preserve order as a secondary objective)
Suppression of free speech and rights of assembly is where we are, can only fight it at the ballot box. I do not support the views or actions of anyone on either of the polar fringes but they are Americans with constitutionally protected rights that must be preserved.
Suppression of free speech and rights of assembly is where we are, can only fight it at the ballot box. I do not support the views or actions of anyone on either of the polar fringes but they are Americans with constitutionally protected rights that must be preserved.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:08 am to cajunangelle
Here's hoping REL is the hottest selling Halloween costume this year 
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:08 am to HailToTheChiz
I think the Veterans have a right to protest, don't you? I also think the Richmond police have a duty to not allow in non permit antifas. Give them a permit on another weekend.
I think the very statement of showing shows the VA dem mayor in CVille and the Democrat Governor, just how ridiculous it is to remove statues and how some Veterans and causes could be highly offended.
The democrats want to play sick divisive games, let's play... it won't bode well for them politically but someone forgot to tell them that Obama's divisive crap isn't wanted or warranted and causes them to lose.
I think the very statement of showing shows the VA dem mayor in CVille and the Democrat Governor, just how ridiculous it is to remove statues and how some Veterans and causes could be highly offended.
The democrats want to play sick divisive games, let's play... it won't bode well for them politically but someone forgot to tell them that Obama's divisive crap isn't wanted or warranted and causes them to lose.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:12 am to cajunangelle
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I also think the Richmond police have a duty to not allow in non permit antifas.
Good luck with that. Monument avenue isn't an area that can easily be roped off. It is in the middle of one of the most populated areas of the city and walking distance from VCU and downtown.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:15 am to Crowknowsbest
Spot on. I live in RVA and know this group.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:16 am to Crowknowsbest
My point is the antifa need to be warned ahead of time to have the proper permit and if they don't they will all go to jail. They can rally/protest another day. Even the day before. The thing is they would fight each other. The thugs need stopped. (SEE Berkley)
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:17 am to cajunangelle
quote:
I think the Veterans have a right to protest, don't you? I also think the Richmond police have a duty to not allow in non permit antifas. Give them a permit on another weekend.
I think the very statement of showing shows the VA dem mayor in CVille and the Democrat Governor, just how ridiculous it is to remove statues and how some Veterans and causes could be highly offended.
The democrats want to play sick divisive games, let's play... it won't bode well for them politically but someone forgot to tell them that Obama's divisive crap isn't wanted or warranted and causes them to lose.
I dont think I said anything about what you just typed.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:18 am to cajunangelle
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The thugs need stopped.
the ones that run over people, yes, definitely need to be stopped.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:19 am to cajunangelle
quote:
My point is the antifa need to be warned ahead of time to have the proper permit and if they don't they will all go to jail. They can rally/protest another day. Even the day before. The thing is they would fight each other. The thugs need stopped. (SEE Berkley)
The only way RPD could actually do that would be using pepper spray, tear gas, and bean bags, which is more likely to escalate the situation into a large-scale riot all over the city than to calm things down.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:19 am to Crowknowsbest
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Richmond is a bit of a powder keg
Richmond has a lot of Confederate memorials. If Richmond falls, war is over.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:21 am to 14&Counting
If RVA decides as a community what to do w the statues one way or another why can't outsiders just accept it? Same question for cville.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:25 am to cajunangelle
Let's not overstate the black membership in SCV.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:30 am to mwade91383
The people in Richmond and Cville are increasingly from out of state, whereas the rural population still has deep ties to the commonwealth. You get into situations where the city might want to do something, but the state at large might not.
That's true in Alexandria for example.
Richmond is our capital though, and thus belongs to all of us. And as the memorials remember our shared sacrifice, they belong to us as well.
They do not belong to the people who moved here from places other.
The monuments are protected though, and the legislature would have to undo that. With growth trends in Northern Virginia, that may happen eventually, but it won't happen tomorrow.
That's true in Alexandria for example.
Richmond is our capital though, and thus belongs to all of us. And as the memorials remember our shared sacrifice, they belong to us as well.
They do not belong to the people who moved here from places other.
The monuments are protected though, and the legislature would have to undo that. With growth trends in Northern Virginia, that may happen eventually, but it won't happen tomorrow.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:31 am to Hawkeye95
It is terrible that deaths occured. The lady and the two State Troopers that crashed their helo.
Absolutely sad. But the antifa has a history of police standing down for them so their opposing protesters right, wrong or indifferent, defended themselves. The loon that lost his mind plowing people over was horrendous and I denounce it in every way fathomable. For hours it was thought that this loon was antifa, I denounce it then, I denounce it now.
It is sad that the left never denounced BLM or the new antifa.
Absolutely sad. But the antifa has a history of police standing down for them so their opposing protesters right, wrong or indifferent, defended themselves. The loon that lost his mind plowing people over was horrendous and I denounce it in every way fathomable. For hours it was thought that this loon was antifa, I denounce it then, I denounce it now.
It is sad that the left never denounced BLM or the new antifa.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:32 am to Lima Whiskey
Solid post, but they aren't protected.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:33 am to Hawkeye95
Love it when you lay down the facade and tell the truth.
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