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re: Video proves CoS Kelly lied about Rep Wilson speech at FBI

Posted on 10/20/17 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35412 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 2:23 pm to
BTW, thanks to whomever RA'd the offensive language and to the admin who acted on it quickly. A number of you from the other "side" called it out as well.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 2:25 pm to
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Kelly was dead on and no rational person can watch that video and think otherwise.


quote:

”The congresswoman in the long tradition of empty barrels making the most noise stood up there and talked about how she Was instrumental getting the funding for that building and how she took care of her constituents because she got the money and how she just called President Obama and Obama just gave the $20 million for the building “

Those are his words. Those words are false. She said nothing of the sort. She did not even talk about funding
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 2:28 pm to
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LOL. Sure looks like it proves him correct.


Listened to the whole video that you are correct!! What the hell is she talking about federal buildings for? Kelly was exactly right, you should change the subject line because it is the lie
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42637 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 2:33 pm to
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Amazing idiots that are defending Wilson and making her the face of their party have the audacity to tell anyone they lack reason or objective standards.

All the while vilifying Kelly. The father of a fallen soldier. How little self awareness do they have?


You need to pull in your horns on this one. Kelly got it wrong. Not only with the wording but with the insinuation.

I watched the whole video and Kelly mischatacterized it badly. It was a good effort on her part.

Good people can make mistakes and bad people are not always evil. This is an example of both.

I will side with Kelly every time but I won’t fail to admit when he is wrong.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39498 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 2:46 pm to
So Kelly is taking Fredericas words out of context, but there's no possible way that Frederica is doing that to Trump?

Seems legit.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 2:49 pm to
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just thought exposing a lie was important
Where were you when Obama lied so many times? I guess that wasn't important because Obama is....well, you know.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 2:50 pm to
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I watched the whole video and Kelly mischatacterized it badly.
First off, the video is edited. Second, the characterization was spot on IMO. Just gross!
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48439 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 2:50 pm to
I hear you. We will have to agree to disagree. She made that speech about herself imo.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42637 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:00 pm to
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First off, the video is edited.

I watched it on my iPhone and it was having much difficulty maintaining a good connection - It was listed as 9 minutes long and probably took me 15 minutes to make it thru the whole thing. If it was edited it escaped me.

From what I saw she spent more time discussing the fallen agents than she did discussing the naming of the building. And I didn't think her discussion of her role (if true) was out of bounds. I would defy you to find any politician who would not have outlined that sequence of events.

I still think Kelly was wrong in his characterization. It is not unforgivable, but he is strong enough that we don't need to deceive ourselves about what happened.

Kelly is a good man - he is not perfect - I am satisfied with that.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42637 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:01 pm to
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I hear you. We will have to agree to disagree. She made that speech about herself imo.


Faur enough - we disagree - wasn't the end of the world -
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:04 pm to
2:36

"I said oh hell no.... We gonna get this done. Immediately I went into attack mode. IIIIII Went to the speaker. IIIIII WENT to the SENATE AND PUT THEM ON NOTICE... IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

"

If you are going to post something, and claim it to prove Kelly wrong, do a better job.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98200 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:06 pm to
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This is so fricking stupid. One of the dumbest political disputes I have ever seen, for all involved. 



Meanwhile there are real questions like what were they doing in Niger and were they hung out there without enough support. I hope someone looks for answers eventually. This shitshow serves to distract from that. Cuo Bono?
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:07 pm to
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Those are his words. Those words are false. She said nothing of the sort. She did not even talk about funding





Yes she did. Starting at the 2 minute mark... all of that is about the funding and approval.


It wass all about her going to the House and then to the senate.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35412 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:08 pm to
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2:36

"I said oh hell no.... We gonna get this done. Immediately I went into attack mode. IIIIII Went to the speaker. IIIIII WENT to the SENATE AND PUT THEM ON NOTICE... IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

"

If you are going to post something, and claim it to prove Kelly wrong, do a better job.
SO out of the whole speech, that's all you got? I love how you use bars to cut out entire sections of the speech.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:11 pm to
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I think what you're forgetting is Miss Wilson annoyed the hell out of General Kelly because she politicized it she took something sacred and made it something political so shame on her end of point

I wonder who threw Kelly's name out there first...hmmm
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 3:14 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:32 pm to
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So Kelly is taking Fredericas words out of context, but there's no possible way that Frederica is doing that to Trump?

I am on record at least 10 times here saying that Wilson absolutely took Trump’s words or call out of context. So get your shite straight
Posted by Circus Child
Loc
Member since Aug 2003
3687 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:32 pm to
Did we get the whole speech? I don't really care but when I clicked on the video it sounded like she was mid-speech.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:35 pm to
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Yes she did. Starting at the 2 minute mark... all of that is about the funding and approval. It wass all about her going to the House and then to the senate.

Dude. It was about the ribbon cutting. Moving the ribbon cutting, naming and ceremony up from four weeks to much closer. Absolutely nothing about funding or approval of funding. Nothing. Nada, zilch.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48439 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:35 pm to

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I wonder who threw Kelly's name out there first


Trump: I prefer to call families of fallen soldiers. Many Presidents, like President Obama, wrote letters. I prefer to call.

Rabid left: OMG!!! Are you saying Obama didn't call families. PROVE IT!!!!

Trump: Gen Kelly

Rabid left: OMG. You are using a dead soldier for political gain.


----------12 hours later---------

Rabid left: OMG!!! Trump offended a dead soldiers family!!!!!
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:40 pm to
I cannot believe people actually believe Kelly made up something so detailed.

He heard it. Whether or not it was on tape is irrelevant.
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