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re: Video proves CoS Kelly lied about Rep Wilson speech at FBI

Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:36 pm to
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BBONDS25
Did you watch the video? Did you listen to it? You have to be a huge partisan POS if you think that speech was making the event about her.
Posted by Bunyan
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:36 pm to
Just watched it. LOL you think this validates Wilson? She was gloating the entire time.

Time to face facts, your "gotcha" threads haven't worked once. Very sad. Very bad (or sick) guy!
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:37 pm to
Shocking that the "RESPECT THE TROOPS!!11!" side has turned the death of a US troop into a petty pissing match of he said, she said. Pathetic on all fronts.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
5310 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:37 pm to
LOL You can tell the Libs have been in hiding waiting for ANYTHING to try and get a win. This thread seems to have drug out all the lib flunkies. Her speech was a self aggrandizing disaster as described by Kelly.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:38 pm to
Oh look now you’re a huge piece of shite according to the guy defending Weinstein by calling Rose McGowan a slut
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:39 pm to
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I wouldn't bother


Great idea for you. The logout button is top right.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:39 pm to
She's an idiot, but anyone who watched that bumbling speech and says she made it all about herself is being an absolute hack. Also, Kelly's main gripe was her bragging about funding, which she didn't.

Y'all need to quit being hackish
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35361 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:39 pm to
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Just watched it. LOL you think this validates Wilson? She was gloating the entire time.

Time to face facts, your "gotcha" threads haven't worked once. Very sad. Very bad (or sick) guy!
Give us some quotes of the gloating tough guy. I dare ya.
Posted by Bunyan
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Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:40 pm to
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Y'all need to quit being hackish

quote:

JuiceTerry

LOL. Seek help.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42514 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:41 pm to
This shows a completely different version than what Kelly presented. I am disappointed in him. Don’t know what to say.

However I might point out she used her own version of “they knew what they were signing up for” in her tribute to the agents killed.

I am still very disillusioned with Kelly for getting this all wrong.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:41 pm to
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I wouldn't bother, even video evidence isn't going to change the narrative people want to be true.
I don't think you know what the word "evidence" means.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
4992 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:41 pm to
I have listened to the John Kelly remarks about 3 times. When he talked about the FBI ceremony in his remarks he said "a congresswomen". To me did he not imply the "congresswomen" at the FBI ceremony was Frederica Wilson(for some reason Debbie Wasserman Schultz popped in my head). I thought he was using this particular story to make a point on how politicians can sometimes be what he called an "empty barrel".

I assume this will be answered in time as somebody will comb through all the remarks at the FBI ceremony. They will find the person that COS John Kelly was referring to/talking about. There is an answer somewhere.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:42 pm to
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Did you watch the video? Did you listen to it? You have to be a huge partisan POS if you think that speech was making the event about her.


Did you listen to it? You have to be a huge partisan POS if you think Kelly's interpretation was a lie.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42514 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:42 pm to
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She's an idiot, but anyone who watched that bumbling speech and says she made it all about herself is being an absolute hack. Also, Kelly's main gripe was her bragging about funding, which she didn't.

Y'all need to quit being hackish


Thruth. Credit where credit is due.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48889 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:43 pm to
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Video proves CoS Kelly lied about Rep Wilson speech at FBI


Can someone tell me what is wrong with the video compared to what Kelly said?

I made it 3 minutes in and she is doing nothing but talking about her efforts at getting stuff done for the building....like Kelly said
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:44 pm to
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I can see how his recollection was skewed. It is abundantly clear she was trying to make the event about herself


She is an empty barrel who you can only defend by acting like you think CoS Kelly literally meant she stood up said "look at me" and sat down.

Her speech was way more about her than those who were supposed to be being honored, that is CoS Kelly's point about that empty barrel.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48079 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:45 pm to
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quote: BBONDS25 Did you watch the video? Did you listen to it? You have to be a huge partisan POS if you think that speech was making the event about her.


How many times did she say "I " in the speech?

You are disingenuous if you think this vindicates her and proves Kelly a liar.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:45 pm to
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Yea, it's not like she went on tv last night and said she was a "rock star" or anything.


Doesn’t change the fact this video shows Kelly to be a liar. Or at a bare minimum, someone willing to offer strong condemnation based on a hazy recollection of an event without checking the facts. And I say this as someone that respects Kelly and think he has overall, until this saga, been a good public servent by every account of his record.

But a deflectionary response like this, ironically in the name of defending the self-aggrandizer in-chief, is only further proving my point. Trumpkins have this curious capacity to openly ignore reason, facts, and objective standards in the name of defending their cult leader. Often while simultaneously claiming it is everyone else but them that is exhibiting the behaviors they are actually habitually guilty of.
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 1:48 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35361 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:47 pm to
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I have listened to the John Kelly remarks about 3 times. When he talked about the FBI ceremony in his remarks he said "a congresswomen". To me did he not imply the "congresswomen" at the FBI ceremony was Frederica Wilson(for some reason Debbie Wasserman Schultz popped in my head). I thought he was using this particular story to make a point on how politicians can sometimes be what he called an "empty barrel".
So he pulled a random speech of a "Congresswoman" to make a point about politicians taking undue credit? I don't doubt that he could have mixed Wilson up with someone else, but he seemed to clearly be implicating Wilson as the person who took credit for funding.
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:48 pm to
Yes, it's dumb because it shows that this administration lies about everything.
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