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Posted on 2/5/14 at 11:40 am to elprez00
quote:No, but I could imagine President Rand Paul and his running mate, Vice President Ron Paul.
Could you imagine? The Clintons running the country together?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:10 pm to elprez00
Doesn't the 12th amendment prohibit anyone constitutionally ineligible to be president from being vice president?
Edit to add: Coupling the 12th with the 22nd Clinton IMO could not be VP. Of course it will all come down to the meaning of the word is.
Edit to add: Coupling the 12th with the 22nd Clinton IMO could not be VP. Of course it will all come down to the meaning of the word is.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:15 pm to elprez00
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Bill can change his state back to Arky
We don't want the lying sack of shite back.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:16 pm to wilfont
I'm quite sure you could find a judge somewhere to declare the 12th amendment unconstitutional maybe bill clinton can become sec of state or get put on the supreme court.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:17 pm to Decatur
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First Man...VP...Bill will be back in the White House regardless
And essentially a third term for Bill, or Hillary depending on who you think pulls the strings.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:26 pm to elprez00
quote:
Semantics
What? It is not about semantics. It is not about the interpretation of the meaning of the words that the President and Vice-President cannot be from the same state. Now, whether or not he or she could change domiciles and defeat this prohibition is another matter entirely.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:38 pm to wilfont
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Doesn't the 12th amendment prohibit anyone constitutionally ineligible to be president from being vice president?
Its ambiguous, and if challenged would likely lead to a Supreme Court ruling. It would be interesting.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:41 pm to beachdude
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Now, whether or not he or she could change domiciles and defeat this prohibition is another matter entirely.
This happens all the time. Cheney did it in 2000. This is the easiest of the issues to fix.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:24 pm to beachdude
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12th Amendment: President and Vice-President cannot be from the same state (New York).
With a Clinton/Clinton ticket, the above only applies to the 29 New York electoral votes.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:35 pm to NHTIGER
NHTIGER...You are correct. I had to go back and read the 12th Amendment for the first time in 30 years. It only applies to the electors of a particular state. In this case (currently), New York which has many electoral votes. If they both moved to Wyoming, they could run the risk of losing those 3 electoral votes (which they probably would not carry anyway) because Wyoming's electors could not vote for them.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 5:44 pm to elprez00
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Its ambiguous, and if challenged would likely lead to a Supreme Court ruling. It would be interesting.
Yep. Based strictly on the wording, he's eligible to be President just as long as he's elected Vice President and assumes the office via that route.
That loophole (for lack of a better word) in turn makes him eligible to be Vice President.
The entire question quickly becomes circular.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 9:37 pm to Walking the Earth
The key in all this is the XXth amendment. It explicitly contemplates the situation where the president elect and/or the VP elect 'do not qualify' for the office to which they are elected. The constitution thus distinguishes between election to an office and eligibility for the office itself.
Taken with the other amendments that sets up a situation where Bill cannot be elected president (XXII) and is ineligible for the office of VP (XII). However, he may be elected VP and is eligible for the office of president. So if you want Bill as president, you simply elect hIm VP and elect someone as president who is ineligible for the office of president. It would be constitutional. Schwarzenegger/Clinton?
Taken with the other amendments that sets up a situation where Bill cannot be elected president (XXII) and is ineligible for the office of VP (XII). However, he may be elected VP and is eligible for the office of president. So if you want Bill as president, you simply elect hIm VP and elect someone as president who is ineligible for the office of president. It would be constitutional. Schwarzenegger/Clinton?
Posted on 2/6/14 at 12:34 am to jb4
Well id rather Bill be president than Hilary whatever that's worth
Posted on 2/6/14 at 1:04 am to Wishnitwas1998
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Well id rather Bill be president than Hilary whatever that's worth
What's the difference?
Posted on 2/6/14 at 1:57 am to elprez00
No one but an idiot would vote for these POS thieves.
Why shouldn't her outright lies in the Watergate investigation and the Benghazi debacle make this liberal fool and her lying under oath, rapist husband kryptonite ?
These 2 fools wanted Obamacare before Obama was heard of.
LMAO
Why shouldn't her outright lies in the Watergate investigation and the Benghazi debacle make this liberal fool and her lying under oath, rapist husband kryptonite ?
These 2 fools wanted Obamacare before Obama was heard of.
LMAO
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