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re: Vice President..... Clinton?

Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:44 am to
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29379 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:44 am to
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President and Vice-President cannot be from the same state (New York).

Semantics. Bill can change his state back to Arky. Happens all the time.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 11:40 am to
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Could you imagine? The Clintons running the country together?
No, but I could imagine President Rand Paul and his running mate, Vice President Ron Paul.
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:10 pm to
Doesn't the 12th amendment prohibit anyone constitutionally ineligible to be president from being vice president?

Edit to add: Coupling the 12th with the 22nd Clinton IMO could not be VP. Of course it will all come down to the meaning of the word is.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 12:17 pm
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:15 pm to
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Bill can change his state back to Arky


We don't want the lying sack of shite back.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12655 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:16 pm to
I'm quite sure you could find a judge somewhere to declare the 12th amendment unconstitutional maybe bill clinton can become sec of state or get put on the supreme court.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 12:17 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57941 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:17 pm to
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First Man...VP...Bill will be back in the White House regardless


And essentially a third term for Bill, or Hillary depending on who you think pulls the strings.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
5640 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:26 pm to
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Semantics


What? It is not about semantics. It is not about the interpretation of the meaning of the words that the President and Vice-President cannot be from the same state. Now, whether or not he or she could change domiciles and defeat this prohibition is another matter entirely.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29379 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:38 pm to
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Doesn't the 12th amendment prohibit anyone constitutionally ineligible to be president from being vice president?

Its ambiguous, and if challenged would likely lead to a Supreme Court ruling. It would be interesting.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29379 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:41 pm to
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Now, whether or not he or she could change domiciles and defeat this prohibition is another matter entirely.

This happens all the time. Cheney did it in 2000. This is the easiest of the issues to fix.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:24 pm to
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12th Amendment: President and Vice-President cannot be from the same state (New York).


With a Clinton/Clinton ticket, the above only applies to the 29 New York electoral votes.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
5640 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:35 pm to
NHTIGER...You are correct. I had to go back and read the 12th Amendment for the first time in 30 years. It only applies to the electors of a particular state. In this case (currently), New York which has many electoral votes. If they both moved to Wyoming, they could run the risk of losing those 3 electoral votes (which they probably would not carry anyway) because Wyoming's electors could not vote for them.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 5:44 pm to
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Its ambiguous, and if challenged would likely lead to a Supreme Court ruling. It would be interesting.


Yep. Based strictly on the wording, he's eligible to be President just as long as he's elected Vice President and assumes the office via that route.

That loophole (for lack of a better word) in turn makes him eligible to be Vice President.

The entire question quickly becomes circular.
Posted by APIEE
Member since Nov 2010
483 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 9:37 pm to
The key in all this is the XXth amendment. It explicitly contemplates the situation where the president elect and/or the VP elect 'do not qualify' for the office to which they are elected. The constitution thus distinguishes between election to an office and eligibility for the office itself.

Taken with the other amendments that sets up a situation where Bill cannot be elected president (XXII) and is ineligible for the office of VP (XII). However, he may be elected VP and is eligible for the office of president. So if you want Bill as president, you simply elect hIm VP and elect someone as president who is ineligible for the office of president. It would be constitutional. Schwarzenegger/Clinton?
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58203 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 12:34 am to
Well id rather Bill be president than Hilary whatever that's worth
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32892 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 1:04 am to
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Well id rather Bill be president than Hilary whatever that's worth


What's the difference?
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 1:57 am to
No one but an idiot would vote for these POS thieves.

Why shouldn't her outright lies in the Watergate investigation and the Benghazi debacle make this liberal fool and her lying under oath, rapist husband kryptonite ?

These 2 fools wanted Obamacare before Obama was heard of.

LMAO
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