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re: U.S. captures Benghazi suspect in secret raid
Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:17 pm to Vegas Bengal
Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:17 pm to Vegas Bengal
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They could just do what Karl Rove, Harriet Miers and the others did during the US Attorney investigation... refuse to testify citing Executive Privilege.
Yes because the power of the President to appoint and dismiss political appointees is the same as Congressional oversight of 4 people killed at an US Embassy,
The US Attorney "scandal" was not a scandal. Every US Attorney serves at the pleasure of the POTUS. Most every US Attorney is asked to proffer their resignation when a new Administration begins.
Try Again.
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:18 pm to mmcgrath
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If he mentions the video 5 times while he is on the stand, the death penalty will be off the table.
If he calls the attack an "act of terror" its parole in 20.
If he blames Bush, he walks.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:48 pm to redandright
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I just heard on Cavuto that this is not the first perp they've arrested.
The first was in the Fall of 2013.
I've been waiting for FOX to update their site with Cavuto's show today to see what you are referencing here, but even without it, I am quite confident that what they were talking about was the October, 2013, arrest by Delta Force/FBI of Nazih Abdul-Hamed al-Ruqai (aka Abu Anas al-Libi), but that was not a Benghazi-related arrest. It was for the two 1998 al-Qaeda bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
Just didn't want anyone to be confused about that.
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:16 pm to WeeWee
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just saw that on Fox News, it only took what 19 months?
Fox "News". Yeah. Wasn't Bin Laden captured faster than 19 months ? C'mon Obama. Why you purposely take so long ?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:32 pm to charlieg14
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Fox "News". Yeah. Wasn't Bin Laden captured faster than 19 months ? C'mon Obama. Why you purposely take so long ?
The poster was likely thinking in terms that the arrest warrant was issued 11 months ago and the Delta Force/FBI plan had been in place for months, yet Obama just gave the go-ahead on Friday. This guy has continued to operate in plain sight for a long time,. Had just been reading about his role in the recent negotiations with Operation Dignity leaders. Everyone knew where he lived and where his parents lived in Benghazi. On Sunday, after another hard day of civil war fighting, he came home and was picked up there and whisked away. He's been all over the Libya newspapers, which I read every day.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:10 am to NHTIGER
Thanks! Now that I think about it, the Military guy said he was scheduled to be picked up at the same time,but didn't indicate he was involved in Benghazi. That was my assumption. They aborted that part of the mission, due to unforeseen complications.
My bad.
My bad.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:17 am to redandright
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:26 am to RaginCajunsULL
Hillary told us it was a youtube video.
Oh, and she wants to be President.
Oh, and she wants to be President.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 7:27 am
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:43 am to NHTIGER
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The diversion part is for PR purposes at a time when Obama needed it the most. But the real reason for the timing is this: The Benghazi Select Committee is ready to begin its work. This is what you will hear over and over again from witnesses, particularly Kerry and Clinton, as well as numerous other past and current administration senior officials: "I cannot comment on that / respond to that / answer that question because there is an alleged key participant in custody of the FBI and any statement made could compromise that investigation and potential prosecution." I'm telling you, you will hear that in these hearings.
I like your fact-finding mission on Benghazi, but I really think you are in two deep on this one. There have been numerous Benghazi investigations. Not once did the Administration flinch, as if they had something to hide.
What makes you think all of a sudden, this Trey Gowdy guy has stirred the pot? If anything, the arrests were made at his behest. Keep in mind, a criminal complaint had been filed against him a year ago by the AG.
Which brings up this much-maligned theory: why is it so hard to get that their were protesters outside the consulate, as there were in Cairo and Tunisia, protesting the video, and then terrorists used the protest as cover for a real attack?
You guys are quick to believe any Libiyan on the ground that said, "it was a planned terrorist attack." But when another says "we were there because of the video", it's horseshite.
Why could it not have been both?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:45 am to EthanL
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why is it so hard to get that their were protesters outside the consulate, as there were in Cairo and Tunisia, protesting the video, and then terrorists used the protest as cover for a real attack?
Pretty sure that's been proven false.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:49 am to EthanL
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Which brings up this much-maligned theory: why is it so hard to get that their were protesters outside the consulate, as there were in Cairo and Tunisia, protesting the video, and then terrorists used the protest as cover for a real attack?
Because the evidence is that there was no protest in Benghazi over the video - people from the campaign just made that up - because Cairo was in the news - to avoid saying it was a terrorist attack - which it actually was. The campaign still had the WH and POTUS saying it was over the video weeks later - but they knew in real time that it was a terrorist attack.
Want to know how I know? Because the attackers were armed with crew served weapons, including machine guns and mortars and were walking mortar fire onto targets. Find me a group of protesters that can do that and I'll change my voter registration.
ETA: It was on September 11, for Pete's sake.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 7:50 am
Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:17 am to RaginCajunsULL
I figure that many people will disagree with me, but I don't believe this individual is anyone if any importance.
I would not be surprised if he is just some random individual with a scary Arabic name who will be trotted out in hopes to shine positive light now that this IRS issue seems to be ramping up and Iraq seems to be falling apart.
I also simply don't trust our government or media.
I would not be surprised if he is just some random individual with a scary Arabic name who will be trotted out in hopes to shine positive light now that this IRS issue seems to be ramping up and Iraq seems to be falling apart.
I also simply don't trust our government or media.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:11 am to EthanL
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There have been numerous Benghazi investigations. Not once did the Administration flinch, as if they had something to hide.
Every single investigation, including the highly-suspect ARB, has come down heavy with blame on the State Dept., which is part of the administration. State even made a mockery of the ARB's findings by returning the four lower-level State Dept. scapegoats identified by the ARB in its classified section to its good graces after everything died down. The most egregious State Dept. figure in terms of irresponsible behavior is Patrick Kennedy, who will receive plenty of attention during the new committee's work. The fact that the ARB "excused" Kennedy while targeting his subordinates and declined to interview many key players, including Hillary Clinton and both of her Deputy Secretaries, shows how singular their purpose was.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:19 am to Ace Midnight
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...were walking mortar fire onto targets.
Slight disagreement. From what I understand, it was a three round mission (one spotting round on target, two rounds fire for effect) that killed the two CIA contractors (former SEALS). As you are alluding to, that is not done haphazardly. It requires tremendous skill and (more than likely) pre-registered fires (either by firing a marking round or pacing off the target from a known reference point). You just don't "hip shoot" a mortar with that accuracy.
Bottom line - this was not a "random, spontaneous" event (as you have already stated).
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:40 am to Wolfhound45
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From what I understand, it was a three round mission (one spotting round on target, two rounds fire for effect) that killed the two CIA contractors (former SEALS).
Five rounds total. First long (injuring Libyan "friendlies" inside the Annex compound), second short, last 3 struck the roof, inflicting the two American deaths and two very serious American injuries. It was the first and only mortar attack on Sept.11-12, and very possibly involved individuals who were nowhere near the Special Mission Compound 7 hours earlier.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:04 pm to NHTIGER
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NHTIGER
As usual, you have the best information. Thanks.
A two round adjustment (where was the spotter?) in the dead of night leading to a three round fire for effect (and that was the only mission fired) lends itself to a greater degree of preparation that would be found in a local militia.
Not the brightest guy in the world, but I kind of know this Army stuff.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:08 pm to Wolfhound45
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but I kind of know this Army stuff.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:11 pm to RaginCajunsULL
quote:Did they bury him at sea?
U.S. captures Benghazi suspect in secret raid
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:51 pm to EthanL
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why is it so hard to get that their were protesters outside the consulate, as there were in Cairo and Tunisia, protesting the video, and then terrorists used the protest as cover for a real attack?
Didn't notice this part previously because I responded to the beginning of your post.
Let's put this to rest once and for all.
As I have posted numerous times, the ONLY anti-video protest on Sept. 11, 2012, was in Cairo (and that was Part 2 of a two-part demonstration, Part 1 being a long-planned 9/11 protest to get the Blind Sheik released from U.S. prison confinement).
Nothing happened in Tunisia on Sept. 11, 2012.
If you have read that anywhere, the source was wrong. Incorrect. In error.
This is important to establish in order to eliminate any notion that there was anti-video activity going on anywhere in the Middle East other than Cairo before and during the Benghazi attack, thus minimizing the likelihood that the Benghazi attackers were motivated by the video.
Once more - nothing happened in Tunisia on Sept. 11, 2012, concerning the video.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:06 pm to NHTIGER
The poster was likely thinking in terms that the arrest warrant was issued 11 months ago and the Delta Force/FBI plan had been in place for months, yet Obama just gave the go-ahead on Friday. This guy has continued to operate in plain sight for a long time,. Had just been reading about his role in the recent negotiations with Operation Dignity leaders. Everyone knew
Which is why Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'reilly, Sean Hannity, FOX "NEWS", and other right leaning sites were all over this calling for this particular's guy capture previous to 6/17 ? If it were so fricking obvious, you think they, Boehner, McCain, and other Republican congressmen would have been quiet about it ? Not a frickin chance in hell.
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where he lived and where his parents lived in Benghazi. On Sunday, after another hard day of civil war fighting, he came home and was picked up there and whisked away. He's been all over the Libya newspapers, which I read every day.
Which is why Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'reilly, Sean Hannity, FOX "NEWS", and other right leaning sites were all over this calling for this particular's guy capture previous to 6/17 ? If it were so fricking obvious, you think they, Boehner, McCain, and other Republican congressmen would have been quiet about it ? Not a frickin chance in hell.
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