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Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:02 am to BamaAtl
quote:
you pretend like you understand it, because you clearly don't.
Irony
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:18 am to Homesick Tiger
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My wife's premium skyrocketing from $220 per month to $965 per month once she lost her dependent spousal coverage is all the understanding I can withstand.
BamaAtl: "Fake news"
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:22 am to cokebottleag
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I said this a few months ago and got told I was an idiot, but I'm convinced that whoever helped write Obama care from the major insurers miscalculated the costs of providing the Obamacare plans. They're expensive to provide and there just were never the amount of healthy people needed to make it work.
Anyone who believed that Obamacare would work has fundamental misconceptions about the healthcare market and human behavior.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:28 am to BBONDS25
She's an idiot.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:32 am to BamaAtl
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I'm sure that's why premiums are increasing at the slowest rate in 50 years
Has nothing to do with rising deductibles.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:12 pm to BamaAtl
quote:That has absolutely zero to do with exchange carrier costs, or actuarial analysis for them.
They did, because they assumed that Medicaid would be expanded nationwide
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:13 pm to BamaAtl
Actually your statement is correct
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:16 pm to cave canem
Every carrier will survive single payer.
They will make money as a claims administrator and selling supplemental policies for all the crap the government can't afford to cover.
They will make money as a claims administrator and selling supplemental policies for all the crap the government can't afford to cover.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:19 pm to bamarep
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UnitedHealth's first-quarter profit soared
Because those frickwads deny everything and don't pay for anything much more than a routine general family doctor office visit.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:20 pm to Mr.Perfect
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Actually your statement is correct
Which statement?
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:20 pm to Mr.Perfect
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selling supplemental policies for all the crap the government can't afford to cover.
Like with Medicare, which is often held up as the bastion of socialized healthcare success?
It's so successful that it needs private plans to take up the slack and a government press printing money 24/7.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:27 pm to BamaAtl
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They did, because they assumed that Medicaid would be expanded nationwide and Republicans wouldn't commit to historic obstruction in limiting promised payments to insurers.
Nope. Not even close. quote:
Had they known those things, then their estimates would have been more accurate.
quote:We have very different definitions of success.
The ACA is a success
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:29 pm to Taxing Authority
It's like he just grabbed a couple of random talking points, and pasted them into his response.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:32 pm to MSMHater
quote:Exactly. The "promised" spending wawn't even in the legislation. Plus, he's not even right about the use of it as an assumption.
Why would you assume a national expansion of something the feds have absolutely no control over (poor planning)? How could you NOT expect a judicial challenge on a bill that required rule changes to pass it with no minority party support (piss poor foresight)?
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:33 pm to bamarep
Nothing makes me happier than seeing insurance companies gain more profit.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:33 pm to BamaAtl
quote:"choice and competition"
Whether large insurance companies could profit off of the ACA is a poor indicator of success
quote:0/10. Trolling or drunk? It's hard to tell.
especially when the small insurance companies are doing great.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:35 pm to Homesick Tiger
quote:She should go get one of those $75/month plans.
My wife's premium skyrocketing from $220 per month to $965 per month
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:35 pm to Homesick Tiger
You have to understand something. The term "success" has very different meaning to liberals and conservatives
In BamaATL's case, success means more people having coverage, period. It doesn't matter that everyone who already had coverage is now paying triple with higher deductibles and less coverage.
All that matters is that the number of "insured" went up....even though those insured can't afford their deductibles anyway.
People like him don't give a shite about the government stealing that money from you to pay for someone else. In fact, they encourage it.
In BamaATL's case, success means more people having coverage, period. It doesn't matter that everyone who already had coverage is now paying triple with higher deductibles and less coverage.
All that matters is that the number of "insured" went up....even though those insured can't afford their deductibles anyway.
People like him don't give a shite about the government stealing that money from you to pay for someone else. In fact, they encourage it.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:40 pm to dcrews
quote:Except they don't have coverage. They may have an insurance card. But if they have any event at all, they'll go bankrupt because they can't afford the deductible. Same as they would if they didn't have the "insurance".
In BamaATL's case, success means more people having coverage, period.
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