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UK PM May invokes June election
Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:42 am
Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:42 am
Maybe a risky move calculated to put further distance between the UK and EU . . . I just hope UKIP and other tory factions don't block things by voting for a third party
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A determined Mrs May made the shock announcement in Downing Street immediately after chairing Cabinet this morning. She urged voters - who will go to the polls in just seven weeks - to hand her a mandate for her approach to Brexit and to unite behind the UK's exit from the EU. In a furious blast at rival politicians' meddling since the Brexit vote, Mrs May hit out at "political game-playing" that is damaging her negotiating position with Brussels and ability to prepare Britain for leaving the EU. The Prime Minister claimed she had "only recently and reluctantly" decided to call for an election, with Downing Street having previously been adamant the Prime Minister would not go to the country before May 2020. Last week, during Parliament's Easter recess, the Prime Minister spent a few days walking in Wales with her husband Philip during which she now appears to have contemplated on today's decision. Mrs May only has a slim working majority of 17 MPs in the House of Commons and will face huge battles from Remain-supporting MPs over the proposed Great Repeal Bill to end the supremacy of EU law. She urged voters to back the Conservatives and avoid a "weak and unstable coalition" of Labour, the Liberal Democrats and SNP when they head to polling stations on June 8.
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:49 am to PoundFoolish
I wouldn't call it a risky move. It seems more like an attempt to put a dagger into the heart of the opposition at a well-timed juncture, before dropping London real estate values and moving financial jobs (potentially) become more acute.
Labour is a dumpster fire right now, and although May was not originally pro-Brexit, she has followed through on her promises enough so that UKIP will have lost most of its allure.
EDIT: For reference, here is an opinion poll from yesterday compared with the more recent Parliamentary elections...
April 2017 Poll
Conservatives, 44%
Labour, 23%
Lib Dems, 12%
UKIP, 10%
"Labour’s rating is the lowest recorded by YouGov since 2009."
May 2015 Election Voting
Conservatives, 36.8%
Labour, 30.5%
UKIP, 12.7%
Lib Dems, 7.9%
SNP, 4.7%
Green, 3.8%
Labour is a dumpster fire right now, and although May was not originally pro-Brexit, she has followed through on her promises enough so that UKIP will have lost most of its allure.
EDIT: For reference, here is an opinion poll from yesterday compared with the more recent Parliamentary elections...
April 2017 Poll
Conservatives, 44%
Labour, 23%
Lib Dems, 12%
UKIP, 10%
"Labour’s rating is the lowest recorded by YouGov since 2009."
May 2015 Election Voting
Conservatives, 36.8%
Labour, 30.5%
UKIP, 12.7%
Lib Dems, 7.9%
SNP, 4.7%
Green, 3.8%
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 8:21 am
Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:55 am to Doc Fenton
Why should the people have to reaffirm their vote?
I understand they have different procedures. I'm just saying.
I understand they have different procedures. I'm just saying.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:56 am to BigEdLSU
It's so the economic markets will have a clearer path to cutting all ties with the EU.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:58 am to PoundFoolish
perhaps she knows the country has buyer's remorse and that Brexit is bad for Britain, so she wants out so her party doesn't get all of the blame it deserves.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:58 am to BigEdLSU
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Why should the people have to reaffirm their vote?
Right.
I guess if Brexit wins this time around they will have to reaffirm that vote in 9-12 months and keep reaffirming until Brexit loses.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:59 am to BigEdLSU
It's just a quirk of the Parliamentary election system that they don't have regularly timed elections. I think they're supposed to hold them at least once every 5 years, but the PM can call for snap elections at any time (which often happens when there's a hung Parliament). Also, the UK went from 1935 to 1945 without an election during WWII, unlike the U.S.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:01 am to TBoy
Come on, bruh. Did you see the numbers? This is all about delivering a mortal blow to Labour. Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:02 am to Doc Fenton
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Come on, bruh. Did you see the numbers? This is all about delivering a mortal blow to Labour. Nothing more, nothing less.
It may have something to do with the pending Scottish referendum as well. Sturgeon wants out of the UK; a contrary vote for that would all but silence her.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:04 am to BigEdLSU
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Why should the people have to reaffirm their vote?
Brexit means Brexit and it should stay like that
a few people I knew who voted out said they may have changed their mind.
UKIP just needs to stay on the sideline, the party is a shite show from in fighting and other issues.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:05 am to PoundFoolish
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It may have something to do with the pending Scottish referendum as
Not going to happen
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Sturgeon wants out of the UK; a contrary vote for that would all but silence her.
Yea and May told her back of the line, after she tried to take May's spot light a couple months ago.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:05 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Brexit means Brexit and it should stay like that
With Art. 50 being passed, how could it be any different, even with the upcoming vote?
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:12 am to PoundFoolish
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Sturgeon wants out of the UK; a contrary vote for that would all but silence her.
I'm not sure what you mean by "a contrary vote" here. The Scots will still vote for Labour like they always do, and the Parliament will still be led by Conservatives.
[EDIT: If you mean the Labour vs. SNP vote in the Scottish voting districts, then I think I see your point.]
Sturgeon wants a repeat of the 2014 Scottish referendum sometime in 2018 or 2019, and the Conservative MPs in the UK government might try to block her, but if anything, a UK Parliament more dominated by Conservatives might push the Scottish public to demand separation even more.
I think there is a strong emotional pull to Scottish independence from their heavily socialist and pro-EU constituency, but I don't think it's enough to push them over 50%... especially when they meet the reality of how hard it will be to re-enter the EU and live without London's subsidies.
Spain, which has its own problems with potential breakaway regions, is going to block any attempt for Scotland to be welcomed into the EU... so it's an even worse situation for them now than it was in 2014.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 8:15 am
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:17 am to PoundFoolish
The timing makes sense. Labour is in shambles, so she's hoping to get more conservatives in the Commons. It is also to give her a mandate (remember she got PM when Cameron resigned) moving forward with Brexit.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:19 am to Doc Fenton
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[EDIT: If you mean the Labour vs. SNP vote in the Scottish voting districts, then I think I see your point.]
This is what I meant.
I don't see how they (Scotland) would have the forward momentum going into 2018/19 to make any headway into the EU (if it's still around).
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:21 am to PoundFoolish
Yep. The emotional pull might be stronger, but there are several new points of hard reality aligned against them now.
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