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re: Trump’s latest filing in the MAL case to dismiss might derail Jack and save SCOTUS.

Posted on 2/25/24 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 1:03 pm to
The problem, in types of hyper-partisanship, is that hyper-partisanship requires extreme (emotional) reactions. If you don't react within the accepted range of outrage, then you're seen as supporting the perceived out group/enemy.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 2:42 pm to
SFP ALARM!!!

Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 2:57 pm to
the Mueller case was filed and heard five and a half years ago in the DC Circuit Court of Appeals

the Jack Smith case was filed and may be heard in South Florida US District Court
This post was edited on 2/25/24 at 2:59 pm
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 3:02 pm to
My question on MAL..

Does anyone have a true value of MAL? If you get a real estate estimator with TDS, they will move heaven and earth to find ways to de-value the property.

Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 3:38 pm to
Does it matter that they appointed for multiple as opposed to just one?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

the Mueller case was filed and heard five and a half years ago in the DC Circuit Court of Appeals

the Jack Smith case was filed and may be heard in South Florida US District Court

Why would the 11th take a different route than settled precedent that was confirmed (by the leading court in federal jurisprudential interpretation) a few years ago?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 5:06 pm to
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ignoring the textual analysis


If that attorney is lucky this motion will be ignored.

If he's smart he withdraws the motion.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

It's almost like someone is trying to stop him from running for president


Jailing your main political rival is a page right out of Putin's playbook.

Biden doesn't mind running that play at all.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

If that attorney is lucky this motion will be ignored.

If he's smart he withdraws the motion.


I can't even call this clever because this literally already was used during the Trump era.

Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 6:34 pm to

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Bump for the Sunday legal scholars.


Jedediah Clampett, Esq. sez, “ that dog ain’t a gonna’ hunt”



Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 6:50 pm to
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It's unlikely to survive on the first level of appeal and I don't know if this would be proper for teh Supreme Court to review.


Why wouldn’t this be a matter for SC review? I would have thought this was precisely the type of thing that would ultimately always end up at SC? (Assuming it is filed in good faith, etc).

A hypothetical since we know this argument has been litigated before. Suppose the FL circuit does in fact hear this and decides that there is merit to the argument and says “sorry, DOJ, Jack Smith isn’t a proper appointee so this whole thing is out.” This would then create a situation where the SC would definitely hear the case, right? Unless one side quit the appeal process before then?
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Judge Cannon rules in Trump’s favor


This is possible I guess

quote:

and the 11 Circuit upholds


This won't happen
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
2791 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:27 pm to
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Can we post the actual motion and not a grifter's analysis of it?


Just for the record

A Grifter is anyone that is conservative and you hate?

Despite your protestations of you being an Independent?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

Why wouldn’t this be a matter for SC review? I

It's not a novel issue and there isn't any appellate conflict.

If all the appeals courts agree on an issue, then the USSC is highly unlikely to take an appeal on that issue. You have to have a reversal of longstanding precedent to have that happen.

Considering this JUST had a DC Circuit Court of Appeals ruling without the USSC agreeing to hear the case, I don't see why they'd agree to hear it now.

quote:

This would then create a situation where the SC would definitely hear the case, right? Unless one side quit the appeal process before then?

No. The Court of Appeals can reverse her decision and then the SC can decline to hear it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

A Grifter is anyone that is conservative and you hate?

No.

quote:

Despite your protestations of you being an Independent?

I posted a Left-grifter lawyer example ITT.
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
3426 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:40 pm to
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It's not a novel issue and there isn't any appellate conflict.


Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense.
Posted by LSUBALLER
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:58 pm to
If half the shite you say as a lawyer is right our country is so freaked
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87522 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

Why would the 11th take a different route than settled precedent that was confirmed (by the leading court in federal jurisprudential interpretation) a few years ago?


well we may just see soon enough won’t we?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 9:43 pm to
The 11th has already embarrassed Cannon once, so I'm pretty sure they will feel free to do it again if they need to.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
10372 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 9:46 pm to
he does not want to be seen as saving Trump and politically tainting his court.

That ship has sailed. Roberts showed his colors during the last election.
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