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re: Trump: We're going to make a deal on Healthcare
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:08 pm to joshnorris14
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:08 pm to joshnorris14
Single Payer? Medicaid for all?
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Public option
Seems very possible. It would have been in the ACA if not for needing to move the bill right to get moderate Democratic votes.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:09 pm to joshnorris14
I seriously doubt it happens. The Democrats will obstruct it.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:10 pm to TigerNAtux
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How 'bout he does as he promised. Repeal Obamacare. Let's start with that.
He promised an alternative to the ACA that covered as much or more had lower premiums and lower deductibles.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:11 pm to LSUwag
Just like they did the first bill, huh? I mean that's obviously why it got nowhere.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:11 pm to buckeye_vol
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BUT he refused to get rid of preexisting conditions rule (highly popular) while also getting rid of the individual mandate, which was understandably unpopular.
Problem is that you can't have both and expect costs to lower.
Which costs? Medicaid? Rolling back the 90 percent Fed gov share would save a ton of money.
What's the big deal about millions of Americans fleeing shitty Obamacare insurance policies? Many were coerced into buying them in the first place, at the threat of (who knows what) by the federal government. Tons of ignorant people flocked to the Internet to give Big Brother all of their personal information because they were scared of the consequences. Democrats should be ashamed of themselves.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:13 pm to joshnorris14
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Considering they've already started with the HFC, very unlikely
How does a bill get both the HFC and the moderates in the House?
And allowing for that unlikely possibility-- what bill would get both the Lee-Cruz-Paul faction and the Murkowski-Collins-Capito-Portman faction? They have contradictory demands.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:17 pm to AU_Right
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That's the biggest dealbreaker...and I can't figure out why that was or even still on the table. I could see maybe having an open enrollment twice a year, but that's pushing it.
I say this as Democrat and as someone who understands the economic issues guaranteed issue causes underwriters, if the GOP tosses the pre-existing conditions requirements they will get annihilated in 2018 and 2020, virtually every Republican who spoke in detail about ACA replacement promised to keep it, its an extremely popular provision if its jettisoned they will pay.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:19 pm to texashorn
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Which costs? Medicaid? Rolling back the 90 percent Fed gov share would save a ton of money.
And kill Republicans in expansion states- there's a reason Capito, Gardener and Portman -- none of whom is exactly a Susan Collins moderate-- almost immediately denounced the AHCA.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:19 pm to joshnorris14
A deal has always been available. The ACA has needed adjustment since it was passed. Democrats will go along with that. Study the actual market and regulatory situation and there will be a lot of "deals" available.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:19 pm to joshnorris14
Hopefully its a deal with the damn freedom caucus
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:20 pm to texashorn
quote:You're highlighting a bunch of the problems with Obamacare. I don't disagree with that one bit.
Which costs? Medicaid? Rolling back the 90 percent Fed gov share would save a ton of money.
What's the big deal about millions of Americans fleeing shitty Obamacare insurance policies? Many were coerced into buying them in the first place, at the threat of (who knows what) by the federal government. Tons of ignorant people flocked to the Internet to give Big Brother all of their personal information because they were scared of the consequences. Democrats should be ashamed of themselves.
The problem is that the AHCA didn't address some of the major problems, and in fact, may have increased the likelihood of the "death spiral."
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:23 pm to joshnorris14
If be fine with public option for poor people...as long as the rest of the market is a free market with the most bare minimum regulations possible.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:31 pm to montanagator
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I say this as Democrat and as someone who understands the economic issues guaranteed issue causes underwriters, if the GOP tosses the pre-existing conditions requirements they will get annihilated in 2018 and 2020, virtually every Republican who spoke in detail about ACA replacement promised to keep it, its an extremely popular provision if its jettisoned they will pay.
That being the case...then nothing will change. Cost will go up or insurance companies will bail...single payer. As said before...try calling a life insurance company on your deathbed for a half a million dollar policy and see what happens. We got Grubbered.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:38 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Serious question. I don't have the energy to go ten rounds with you tonight.
But if he actually does make a deal and repeals this shite legislation; how is that a bad thing for Trump?
What if he is thinking on another level about this and brings it to the other side and gets cooperation?
Would you give him some credit for getting us out of the albatross that is Obamacare?
Serious question.
For me, it depends on what is in the deal. I won't support anything just for the sake of passing something. The grass isn't always greener.
How about Trump just stick to his campaign promises?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:40 pm to montanagator
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And kill Republicans in expansion states- there's a reason Capito, Gardener and Portman -- none of whom is exactly a Susan Collins moderate-- almost immediately denounced the AHCA.
Meh, they are covering for their cowardly state legislators who are scared of budget cuts. Their taxpaying Republican constituents aren't going to cry foul about kicking people off Medicaid and reducing their state budget. Their donors might be a little perturbed but they are outnumbered. Do you think Ohio and Pennsylvania Medicaid castoffs will roll out to vote?
California would lose $20 billion/year if Medicaid expansion were rolled back. That would pay for a new Mexico wall every year.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:30 pm to Errerrerrwere
Errerrerrwere
if some bill passes, do you care at all what its about?
the last try would cost taxpayers more than ACA would.
the new one transfers money from middle class to the upper few percent.
is that ok with you? did you know?
just passing something is not going to make it. just passing something was just rejected by the conservatives.
Trump actually told the Senate not even to have a committee about it. Just vote yes. 5 Republican senators said, no way, not that, we won't.
if some bill passes, do you care at all what its about?
the last try would cost taxpayers more than ACA would.
the new one transfers money from middle class to the upper few percent.
is that ok with you? did you know?
just passing something is not going to make it. just passing something was just rejected by the conservatives.
Trump actually told the Senate not even to have a committee about it. Just vote yes. 5 Republican senators said, no way, not that, we won't.
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