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re: Trump upset that free press is free "frankly disgusting"
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:38 pm to bamarep
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:38 pm to bamarep
quote:If he thinks they're making up quotes he should sue them.
What definition are you using where "free" means to blatantly fricking lie?
He won't because they aren't.
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:39 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
For instance....any freaking "leak" that's been put out there and reported. I would call their bluff, say its a lie, take them to court and demand them to prove it. Efff that "can't disclose my sources" BS. Time to make some heads roll and get back to real news where Bezos isn't paying for the lawyers on one coast to stop Trump's immigration EO and then on the East coast he's pushing the same anti Trump agenda through his Washington ComPost garbage.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:41 pm to Mephistopheles
He's not wrong. Free press used to mean not punishable by the government. Now it means prop up those you like and try to bring down those you don't with very little regard for actual journalism. That is disgusting.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:44 pm to Mephistopheles
It is disgusting that they have no ethics. Just pushing their ideology and expecting the deplorables to swallow it or just keep quiet. Ain't happening now.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:46 pm to Mephistopheles
Folks that aren't rabid-anti-trumper-word-parsers know what he was saying.
Like Mattis said:
Like Mattis said:
quote:Fox News
Mattis issued a brief statement shortly afterward saying: "Recent reports that the President called for an increase in the U.S. nuclear arsenal are absolutely false. This kind of erroneous reporting is irresponsible."
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:47 pm to Knight of Old
But "those familiar" and "unnamed sources" they are so awesome CNN is leaning on them more than ever I suspect.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:47 pm to Mephistopheles
Purposefully fake news trotted out as fact should have serious consequences.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:48 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
Conservatives used to pretend to tolerate speech they didn't like
Now they just favor any restrictions that promote their agenda
I'm conservative. I don't support restrictions on speech. I do find it disgusting that the press is putting lies and half truths out there in an attempt to formulate opinion that promotes their political agenda.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:49 pm to bamarep
quote:
What definition are you using where "free" means to blatantly fricking lie?
You go down this route and it's going to come back at you when charges are brought against Breitbart, Cernovich, Drudge, CNS, Gateway, GotNews.....just think before you jump Trumpers.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:53 pm to cwill
quote:It's not a 'route', Lennie Small. Lying is lying...
You go down this route
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:53 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
Conservatives used to pretend to tolerate speech they didn't like
quote:
Now they just favor any restrictions that promote their agenda
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:54 pm to cwill
quote:
You go down this route and it's going to come back at you when charges are brought against Breitbart, Cernovich, Drudge, CNS, Gateway, GotNews.....just think before you jump Trumpers.
big freaking deal!!!! OH NOOOOOO, EVERYONE WILL HAVE TO TELL THE TRUTH! WHAT WILL WE EVER DO?> Seriously, I'm sure they've all lied at some point but the MSM is fighting Trump. They control most of TV, entertainment industry etc and they don't like Trump and they've used lies to fight him every step of the way. If you have facts that Trump did something wrong, then lets gooo! Let me see them...otherwise STFU and move on to your "editorial" about how you hate the president.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:54 pm to bamarep
quote:
Please list his lies.
EXACT lies.
“I wasn't a fan of Iraq. I didn't want to go into Iraq.”
“And yet the murder rate in our country is the highest it’s been in 47 years, right? Did you know that? Forty-seven years.”
“We got 306 because people came out and voted like they've never seen before so that's the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.”
“122 vicious prisoners, released by the Obama Administration from Gitmo, have returned to the battlefield. Just another terrible decision!”
“The trade deficit with Mexico is close to $70 billion, even with Canada it’s $17 billion trade deficit with Canada.”
“We’re the highest-taxed nation in the world.”
“I'm cutting the price of airplanes with Lockheed.”
“Last week a brand-new coal mine just opened in the state of Pennsylvania, first time in decades, decades.”
There are hundreds.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:56 pm to The Spleen
"The U.S. has the highest top corporate tax rate at least among advanced economies" is a fact.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:58 pm to bamarep
quote:
Please list his lies.
EXACT lies.
“With just one negotiation on one set of airplanes, I saved the taxpayers of our country over $700 million.”
“To save taxpayer dollars, I’ve already begun negotiating better contracts for the federal government — saving over $700 million on just one set of airplanes of which there are many sets.”
At least 600m saving was already happening.
LINK /
quote:
A 6 percent cost reduction would amount to $570 million shaved off that $9.5 billion total, while a 7 percent reduction is $665 million. As such, Trump's claimed $600 million cut is right in the ballpark of what the price reduction was going to be all along. General Bogdan's prediction is less than two months old, and there's been nothing, for better or for worse, that would impact his forecast.
Trump claims he got involved in the F-35 program "about a month ago" and that there was "no movement". Lockheed Martin CEO Marilyn Hewson visited the White House on January 23. The president has not disclosed the details of his deal with Lockheed Martin and how the two reached the $600 million dollar savings figure. It is unlikely that the planes in this new development stage are suddenly 12 to13 percent cheaper, which is what would have to happen for Trump to have achieved an additional $600 million savings over Bogdan's forecasted price cut, so perhaps Trump is personally taking credit for cost reductions that were going to happen all along.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:58 pm to Wildcat In Germany
quote:Here's the only one that history will amplify: HRC was going to win in a landslide...
There are hundreds.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:01 pm to GFaceKillah
That "fact" checker is pretty interesting. Among those already stated wrongly, let's add the "disputes" by Corker's COS.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:02 pm to Mephistopheles
quote:
“I was in Tennessee — I was just telling the folks — and half of the state has no insurance company, and the other half is going to lose the insurance company.”
Nope. Every county in TN has an insurer. Rates were initially formally tendered in late April. Trump said this on 3/17. By this point anyone who had the data, which Trump does, would have a strong indication of where there would or wouldn't be at least one insurer.
quote:
For a few months in early 2017, it appeared that the Knoxville area would have no insurers offering exchange plans in 2018. But Blue Cross Blue Shield of Tennessee has agreed to re-enter the Knoxville market (after leaving it at the end of 2016). In addition, Oscar Health Insurance Company will enter the Tennessee exchange in the Nashville area.
Source: LINK /
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:06 pm to Mephistopheles
The fact that Trump hates a free press is evidence that he leans towards fascism, as his father once did. A truly free press is an essential element for a free democratic society, and the fact that Trump doesn't seem to understand that is sad and disturbing.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:15 pm to Mephistopheles
Bullies don’t like being exposed.
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