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re: Trump trying to end birthright citizenship
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:22 am to BRTigerDad
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:22 am to BRTigerDad
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Russians Flock to Trump Properties to Give Birth to U.S. Citizens
The Russians learned it from the Chinese
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Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:23 am to BRTigerDad
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Yes, and Trump is involved in it.
You're not making the point I think you're hoping.
It's the same with income tax deductions. It's legal and it's an advantage he (and yourself) can employ to ensure that you make/keep as much of your money as possible. That would be like bitching because Citizen Trump's limo took the express lane because he paid the toll.
If it's no longer permissible, you'll see it stop.
It's not that complicated, I swear.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:25 am to VoxDawg
Go ahead and amend the 14th Amendment then.
Cannot be done via an executive order.
Cannot be done via an executive order.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:29 am to VoxDawg
Good post. I completely agree with you about the pervasiveness of executive orders and what’s likely to come with this this one in particular. I just hate that our system is so broken that we have to resort to this. In a well functioning system this would go through the legislature, but now The Supreme Court Makes most of our laws.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:29 am to BRTigerDad
There isn't a problem with 14A in essence. The issues lies within what has been historically an unconstitutional interpretation of the last 40 years, thanks to liberal activists on the courts who have a soft spot for anchor babies and illegals who seek to breed like vermin in the shadows the moment they get here.
It's worth me toning that your icon RBG is so senile and addled that she couldn't remember which amendment was 14, back at the end of the summer.
It's worth me toning that your icon RBG is so senile and addled that she couldn't remember which amendment was 14, back at the end of the summer.
This post was edited on 10/30/18 at 6:31 am
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:35 am to NewOrleansBlend
The 14th Amendment begins:
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside”
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside”
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:37 am to NewOrleansBlend
And to try to change that clear and direct language of the 14th A by an executive order is simply stupid.
That is not setting up a court battle or framing an issue for discussion.
That is simply stupid and a waste of time.
That is not setting up a court battle or framing an issue for discussion.
That is simply stupid and a waste of time.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:38 am to NewOrleansBlend
There are ashitload of very wealthy Asians and people from the Middle East that come here to give birth so the child can be a US citizen, Not to mention a shitload of illegal aliens, Long overdue move to take out this ridiculous loophole
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:38 am to papasmurf1269
Really doubt an executive order can do it.
Maybe a law if fashioned correctly can do it. Will hang on the "subject to the jurisdiction" phrase.
But this bit of the article
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basically the US, Canada, and bunch of other countries no one would want to move to.
Maybe a law if fashioned correctly can do it. Will hang on the "subject to the jurisdiction" phrase.
But this bit of the article
quote:is garbage journalism.
However, Canada and many other countries grant birthright citizenship
LINK
basically the US, Canada, and bunch of other countries no one would want to move to.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:40 am to BRTigerDad
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Clearly unconstitutional. Why does this fool hate the Constitution?
The Constitution can be changed. It's happened before.
Trump is simply starting the conversation.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:40 am to VoxDawg
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Failure to clarify the 14th Amendment has been a terminal illness to our nation.
Trump is starting a conversation.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:40 am to BRTigerDad
There is still room to debate the constitutionality of birthright citizenship.
For example. The children of diplomats born in the US are not granted Citizenship.
For example. The children of diplomats born in the US are not granted Citizenship.
This post was edited on 10/30/18 at 6:46 am
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:41 am to BigJim
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Maybe a law if fashioned correctly can do it.
No, a law cannot violate the 14th Amendment either.
The 14th A is as clear and direct as it gets. If you are born here then you are a citizen, period.
Nothing short of an Amendment to the 14th A will change that.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:42 am to Loserman
I bet at least 70% of the country agrees birthright citizenship is insane.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:43 am to BRTigerDad
So, if an amendment included a statement that said “shall not be infringed”, then the courts cannot interpret it or limit it in any way?
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:45 am to NewOrleansBlend
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I don’t think it’s good for our country that a president can do this unilaterally and without debate, creates too much executive power. This should go through congress.
What for? He is upholding the Constitution. What is there to debate?
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:47 am to BRTigerDad
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What an absolute fricking idiot. Again.
I believe we're the only country in the world with birthright citizenship.
Don't you wanna be just like Europe? Well, end this so we can be more like Europe.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:47 am to The Maj
Good, you are thinking and I appreciate that.
Now please read the entire sentence where you found that phrase, and then please note that our "well regulated Militia" has not been infringed -- our National Guard continues to thrive and has not been infringed.
Now please read the entire sentence where you found that phrase, and then please note that our "well regulated Militia" has not been infringed -- our National Guard continues to thrive and has not been infringed.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:49 am to papasmurf1269
About time!
"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!" say the democrats.
I will be very happy to see President Trump make a change that makes headlines like this history.
Foreigners Seeking US Citizenship for Children Flout Law, Can Endanger Babies
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"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!" say the democrats.
I will be very happy to see President Trump make a change that makes headlines like this history.
Foreigners Seeking US Citizenship for Children Flout Law, Can Endanger Babies
LINK
This post was edited on 10/30/18 at 6:52 am
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