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re: Trump to roll back regs on banks in new EO.

Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:41 pm to
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Posted by barry
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:42 pm to
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but why on earth would you remove the fiduciary rule?


Exactly, someone answer this
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:42 pm to
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Dodd Frank led to the great recession


Not really, but I'll allow it.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:42 pm to
How about an EO for auditing the fed?
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:43 pm to
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for auditing the fed
What does that mean?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:44 pm to
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Exactly, someone answer this


Because not everyone that works with a benefit plan investor should be held to the ERISA fiduciary standard.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:45 pm to
Get rid of the banks and bring back the gold standard
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:46 pm to
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Dodd Frank led to the great recession
Do you mean it led to the Great Recession of 2008/2009 although Dodd-Frank wasn't passed until 2010?

Notice anything funny about that???
Posted by barry
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:54 pm to
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Because not everyone that works with a benefit plan investor should be held to the ERISA fiduciary standard.



Why's that
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:56 pm to
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Exactly, someone answer this


Because there are thousands of financial advisors who follow the rules and the law. They are being absolutely bombarded with bullshite paperwork that reduces their ability to actually help clients achieve their financial goals with this DOL rule. And it's just asking for the shark attorneys to start hammering financial advisors for providing what's normally good advice that doesn't meet this ridiculous fiduciary standard. There aren't 50,000 advisors out there fricking clients over. There just aren't. 9 out of 10 do the right thing for clients each and every time. This rule was ill written, cumbersome and it achieved absolutely nothing.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:56 pm to
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Why's that


Because not everyone is a plan fiduciary. That's been recognized under ERISA since 1974 when it was first passed.
Posted by Shepherd88
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:57 pm to
Here we go again, lol.
Posted by BARNEYSTINSON
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:57 pm to
Fiduciary rule was not voted on by house, but was a regulation passed by DOL.
This post was edited on 2/3/17 at 2:59 pm
Posted by MrBiriwa
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 3:00 pm to
DRAIN THE SWAAA.... he fooled yall
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 3:00 pm to
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Fiduciary rule was not voted on by house, but was a regulation passed by DOL.


This is true, but the house did vote on allowing the SEC to study and implement new standards for financial advisors.
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 3:02 pm to
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This is true, but the house did vote on allowing the SEC to study and implement new standards for financial advisors.


And that's fine. We WANT good standards for advisors. What we don't want is some bullshite rule that has absolutely no chance of helping the every day investor get where they need to be. Regulate if you want but regulate smart. Not this crock of horse shite. The DOL rule can lick my balls.

It's like they asked a fricking pipefitter down at Shell to draw this shite up
This post was edited on 2/3/17 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 3:03 pm to
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This is true, but the house did vote on allowing the SEC to study and implement new standards for financial advisors.


The SEC, not the DOL. And the SEC proposal relates to creating a uniform fiduciary standard for both investment advisers and broker-dealers. Broker-dealers are subject to a less stringent standard than are investment advisers under the Advisers Act.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 3:27 pm to
Ah didn't know that. Thanks.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 3:53 pm to
You don't understand.

The law was past without procedures. Fed agencies have been interpreting the law and producing procedures.

Some procedures, now Regs, will stick and require Congress. Other procedures do not require Congress, though significant changes can be appealed through the Judical process.

Trump is doing NOTHING more that what has been allowed before. The differences are:

The person doing it
The amount of attention being focused on it
The sheer number of EO completed in 2 weeks

Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 3:55 pm to
Sen Warren and other clueless snowflake melts in 3, 2, 1 ....
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