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Trump to roll back regs on banks in new EO.

Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:23 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:23 pm
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From what I'm seeing, it looks like Trump is going to scale back many of the regs put in place by Dodd-Frank. Including the regulation that requires financial advisors to act as a fiduciary for their clients.

I can understand signing executive orders that repeal previous executive orders, but using EO's to roll back laws passed by congress is bullshite imo. It was bullshite when Obama did it. It's bullshite now.
Posted by mwade91383
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:24 pm to
It's also just a bad idea.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:25 pm to
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but using EO's to roll back laws passed by congress is bullshite
Well, it's a good thing that's not what Trump's EO does, isn't it?
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:25 pm to
I'll reserve judgement until I see the details of the EO. However, Dodd-Frank was really bad for small and mid-size banks, and basically made it impossible for banks other than large multi-nationals to survive.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:26 pm to
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Well, it's a good thing that's not what Trump's EO does, isn't it?



Well, if it repeals regulations put in place by the Dodd-Frank act......
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:26 pm to
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using EO's to roll back laws passed by congress is bullshite imo.


You should read them more closely. That's not what this EO does.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:27 pm to
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I'll reserve judgement until I see the details of the EO. However, Dodd-Frank was really bad for small and mid-size banks, and basically made it impossible for banks other than large multi-nationals to survive.



I certainly won't argue that Dodd-Frank is the perfect bill, but why on earth would you remove the fiduciary rule?
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:27 pm to
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using EO's to roll back laws passed by congress is bullshite imo


The Department of Labor thing that he's rolling back failed to make it through congress multiple times before the DOL decided to overstep their bounds and push it through themselves.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:27 pm to
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Well, if it repeals regulations put in place by the Dodd-Frank act......


Well, a regulation put into place by an agency is not the same thing as an act of Congress.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:27 pm to
I'll reserve judgement too. Dodd was a fricktard. His work with the MPAA secured that.


Frank-dodd did nothing but line the pockets of overpaid consultants.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:28 pm to
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The Department of Labor thing that he's rolling back failed to make it through congress multiple times before the DOL decided to overstep their bounds and push it through themselves.


Yep, and it was a messy rule that was likely to have a lot on unintended consequences.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:28 pm to
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Frank-dodd


Dodd-Frank.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:28 pm to
It's a review of Dodd Frank, not an order to eliminate.
It will be interesting to see what WSJ has to say tomorrow. They've been railing against DF for years.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:29 pm to
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It will be interesting to see what WSJ has to say tomorrow. They've been railing against DF for years.


Volcker Rule has got to go.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:30 pm to
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if it repeals regulations put in place by the Dodd-Frank act......
It doesn't.

The D-F Act gave regulators under the Executive Branch of government broad authority to come up with new regulations.

The regs that Trump's EO invalidates were some of those regs. The Act itself didn't specify the regs.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:31 pm to
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roll back laws


quote:

scale back many of the regs


There's a difference...and that's the point
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:32 pm to
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but why on earth would you remove the fiduciary rule?
Because it was the Plaintiff Attorney Full Employment Act.
This post was edited on 2/3/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted by massiveattack
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:35 pm to
Dodd-Frank is a disaster
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:35 pm to
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Trump to roll back regs on banks in new EO.


quote:

using EO's to roll back laws passed by congress is bullshite


Which one is it?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:40 pm to
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Which one is it?


We don't know. The EO hasn't come out yet. But Trump's advisor and the director of the National Economic Council has said that rolling back the fiduciary rule is just the beginning in terms of scaling back Dodd-Frank.
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