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Trump to increase defense spending by up to $500 Billion
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:13 pm
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So he says European countries need to spend money on defense themselves, rather than us do it. I totally agree. But then comes this. If you are theoretically going to be spending less by having Europe pull more of the weight, why are we going to put MORE into an already gluttonous defense budget?
So he says European countries need to spend money on defense themselves, rather than us do it. I totally agree. But then comes this. If you are theoretically going to be spending less by having Europe pull more of the weight, why are we going to put MORE into an already gluttonous defense budget?
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Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:14 pm to ScarletFire
The guy is not even in office yet. 
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:14 pm to ScarletFire
In some of his rallies, he basically called out the whole "10k hammer and 1k nails" system we have going on. If we can drastically reduce this kind of abuse, we can cut the budget and still have a stronger military. Stop giving contractors corporate welfare.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:15 pm to ScarletFire
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:15 pm to ScarletFire
Have you not been listening to what he has said from day one? "We are going to rebuild our depleted military"
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:15 pm to ScarletFire
Defense budget determines defense capability and is a bargaining tool in international negotiation.
Whether ethical or not it is the truth. This strategy has been and will be used against our interests when a strategic advantage is held by another nation.
When China decides they want X and Y in this region and you are for Z your capabilities in certain areas determines who is negotiating from the high ground. It determines outcomes without a single shot being fired.
Our carrier fleet and the ability to park a runway in any body of water on planet earth has paid back its cost many times over
Any contract in the domestic private sector is only as valuable/binding as it is enforceable. You see legal battles on breaches constantly throughout our country's courts.
The same thing holds true between nations. Iran doesn't give a shite about following guidelines set in our deal unless we can re-establish their sanctions while having the technology to prevent theirs from being a threat to our assets.
Whether ethical or not it is the truth. This strategy has been and will be used against our interests when a strategic advantage is held by another nation.
When China decides they want X and Y in this region and you are for Z your capabilities in certain areas determines who is negotiating from the high ground. It determines outcomes without a single shot being fired.
Our carrier fleet and the ability to park a runway in any body of water on planet earth has paid back its cost many times over
Any contract in the domestic private sector is only as valuable/binding as it is enforceable. You see legal battles on breaches constantly throughout our country's courts.
The same thing holds true between nations. Iran doesn't give a shite about following guidelines set in our deal unless we can re-establish their sanctions while having the technology to prevent theirs from being a threat to our assets.
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:16 pm to ScarletFire
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If you are theoretically going to be spending less by having Europe pull more of the weight, why are we going to put MORE into an already gluttonous defense budget?
If you are repurposing dollars that are spent on defending foreign countries you are not spending more. Just reallocating from one line item to another. You may very well still wind up spending less.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:16 pm to ScarletFire
Increase defense spending? Cause we don't spend enough already.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:17 pm to Bob Sacamano
quote:The excuses and apologies over the next 4-8 years on this board will be epic.
The guy is not even in office yet.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:17 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:
Have you not been listening to what he has said from day one? "We are going to rebuild our depleted military"
I realize this, but if you are going to save money in Europe why do we need to increase spending by that much?
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:17 pm to ScarletFire
Well, he's becoming what I feared he would.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:18 pm to ScarletFire
I'd rather spend it on infrastructure, but he's apparently doing that too. 
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:18 pm to ScarletFire
Because rebuilding and modernizing requires money. It's not that hard.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:18 pm to Putty
quote:
If you are repurposing dollars that are spent on defending foreign countries you are not spending more. Just reallocating from one line item to another. You may very well still wind up spending less.
Repurposing is fine, but an outright increase in spending of this magnitude in addition to repurposing is not.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Obama 2.0
Well, he's becoming what I feared he would.
Color me shocked.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Pretty sure he's said this from the start?
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:19 pm to ScarletFire
The military needs to do more with the money they get. Way too much waste
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:19 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:
Because rebuilding and modernizing requires money. It's not that hard.
Money we will gain from not spending it in Europe... You are missing the entire point
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:19 pm to goofball
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I'd rather spend it on infrastructure, but he's apparently doing that too.
Starting to resemble Obama.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:19 pm to ScarletFire
He's restoring the cuts that were imposed by sequestration.
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