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re: Trump "seriously considering" pardon for Sheriff Joe

Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112469 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:30 pm to
Good. Trump can invite Sheriff Joe and Ana Navarro to a beer summit at the White House. I'd pay to see that.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21121 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 3:27 pm to
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Why is Mexican immigration so personal for you?

You really seem to be passionate about immigration



I'm talking about Arpaio being convicted of a crime and then Trump letting him off. He says he cares about the rule of law, but then doesn't back it up unless it is something he personally cares about.

Mexican immigration is not personal for me. I don't think kids should be deported and have been vocal about that, but that's about it. The fact that I don't think young people who've grown up here should be deported shows how ridiculous this board has become. It turns into a big argument whenever it comes up and I don't back down. But, that's not me being passionate. It's me being stubborn.

I'm against illegal immigration and am fine with a Wall. I've never said otherwise.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34909 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 3:29 pm to
Good. Trump needs to hone the edge of his pardon saber anyway...just in case Meuller and His Hillary assassins go rogue.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81676 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 3:32 pm to
Sheriff Joe is a Patriot through and through
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4043 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:19 pm to
Was his crime a federal crime? I thought the President can only pardon federal criminals.

The governor would have to pardon on any state level criminals.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:32 pm to
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Sounds swamp-like,


How so?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:34 pm to
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Law and order and all that I thought.

Thats the point. Joe was enforcing the law and the swamp creature/wit5ch hunters didn't like it.
Trump should appoint Joe to a all powerful border control position.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:36 pm to
You're confused.
Posted by Tyrusrex
Member since Jul 2011
907 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:38 pm to
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Trump "seriously considering" pardon for Sheriff Joe


it'd be a dumb move politically. Yeah, he has the right to do so as President, but it'd be political seppuku. When he's already being attacked as not being harsh enough on the Alt-right, he's going to pardon one of their hero's. You'd have to wonder how much lower his popularity rating alreday at 34% could fall.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:39 pm to
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Was his crime a federal crime? I thought the President can only pardon federal criminals. The governor would have to pardon on any state level criminals.

Joe was enforcing state law. The fed ala slimy communist Holder/Lynch made it fed.
Posted by monceaux
Houston
Member since Sep 2013
1182 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:39 pm to
When will someone tell Trump he can't pardon for a state offense? This is pretty basic stuff here - not a nuance of the law.

Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
7441 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:40 pm to
doubt it, he only reads the enquirer (sp) cause a friend owns it and it has pictures
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:42 pm to
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Was his crime a federal crime? I thought the President can only pardon federal criminals.


Good point and it brings up an interesting legal question.

Since Sheriff Joe was found guilty of contempt of court by a Federal judge in a Federal court was he found guilty of a Federal crime?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:16 pm to
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You'd have to wonder how much lower his popularity rating alreday at 34% could fall.

Your concern is noted.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:18 pm to
I realize the President has all the power in the world to pardon this man. But does he deserve it? He was told by a judge to stop racially profiling Mexican-Americans, but he kept doing it anyway. He's just a racist piece of crap. Make an example out of him.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:29 pm to
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He was told by a judge to stop racially profiling Mexican-Americans, but he kept doing it anyway.


What evidence do you have that he was doing that, other than the claim of someone else?
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:30 pm to
It was taken to court. I haven't done in-depth research of the trial, but a Judge ruled that's what he was doing. So there was evidence of him doing so.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 5:31 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:32 pm to
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but a Judge ruled that's what he was doing. So there was evidence of him doing so.




Was he charged with that or not following the judges mandate?
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 5:34 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:37 pm to
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What evidence do you have that he was doing that, other than the claim of someone else?
He admitted to violating court orders, and then he was found guilty of violating a court order to stop his profiling practices. I don't think he's really said otherwise.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:37 pm to
I believe he was charged with contempt of court because he kept doing it after he was ordered to stop
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