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re: Trump just went off on twitter about London mayor
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:12 am to cwill
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:12 am to cwill
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It was required? What was the enforcement mechanism?
Come on man, you know the US isn't the country that is going to enter into an agreement and not hold up our end of the bargain. That's what the whole world was counting on.
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:42 am to DawgsLife
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Question. If you are not going to abide by the Paris Accord, why be in it?
Honest to goodness, man. This is an honest question
You guys run around screaming why did we get out of the agreement, then when we tell you, you say, it wasn't binding! We didn't have to comply with it.
So, if we are not going to comply with the agreement, why was it so necessary that we be in it?
I just pointed out that the reasons provided by you and Andy aren't legitimate - we weren't required by the Agreement to do either.
My only comments about the withdrawal on this board has been that it's all form over substance on both sides.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:43 am to jb4
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Trump just went off on twitter about London mayorMayor of London has " pathetic excuse"
Thank God we finally have a President who's telling it like it is.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:44 am to LSUTANGERINE
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And he obviously took the mayor's statement out of context so he's not even doing it right.
One of the few times I agree with you, but you need to post the mayor's full quote, even though most people here will ignore it.
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“My message to Londoners and visitors to our great city is to be calm and vigilant today. You will see an increased police presence today, including armed officers and uniformed officers. There is no reason to be alarmed by this. We are the safest global city in the world. You saw last night as a consequence of our planning, our preparation, the rehearsals that take place, the swift response from the emergency services tackling the terrorists and also helping the injured.”
I'm equally pissed when the media does the same with Trump or whoever else.
That being said, the mayor has said some things in the past that can be interpreted to mean that Londoners should expect to just have to live with terrorism. Which is probably why so many bought into the tweet.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 11:45 am
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:44 am to cwill
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My only comments about the withdrawal on this board has been that it's all form over substance on both sides.
That's not entirely true, because the agreement allowed other countries to use OUR court system to sue our government if we didn't meet or "voluntary" obligations. No other nation in the agreement agreed to that stipulation. I wonder why?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:57 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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That's not entirely true, because the agreement allowed other countries to use OUR court system to sue our government if we didn't meet or "voluntary" obligations. No other nation in the agreement agreed to that stipulation. I wonder why?
Link?
I've read an argument that environmental groups might have used the Agreement as a basis to sue as Trump rolls back green house gas emission limitations...he's going to get sued regardless. But that's not what you're saying...that's why I'm asking for the link.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:53 pm to LSUTANGERINE
It never fails, it's the people that can't stand Trump to begin with that want him to stop tweeting. It tells me that he needs to tweet more.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:05 pm to cwill
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Trump just went off on twitter about London mayor
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That's not entirely true, because the agreement allowed other countries to use OUR court system to sue our government if we didn't meet or "voluntary" obligations. No other nation in the agreement agreed to that stipulation. I wonder why?
Link?
I've read an argument that environmental groups might have used the Agreement as a basis to sue as Trump rolls back green house gas emission limitations...he's going to get sued regardless. But that's not what you're saying...that's why I'm asking for the link.
LINK /
You can then reference the agreement itself to confirm
LINK
This agreement is nothing but another attempt to get the west to feel guilty about its successes and give yet more money to poorer nations.
It literally has nothing to do with a cleaner environment.
For God's sakes, China and India both sat their goals for 2020 as DOUBLING their current pollution levels LOL
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:21 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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This agreement is nothing but another attempt to get the west to feel guilty about its successes and give yet more money to poorer nations.
It literally has nothing to do with a cleaner environment.
For God's sakes, China and India both sat their goals for 2020 as DOUBLING
Which tells me that the people that are bitching about the pull out don't have our best interests in mind.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:36 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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LINK /
You can then reference the agreement itself to confirm
This link and article matches what I posted above and not your assertion:
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That's not entirely true, because the agreement allowed other countries to use OUR court system to sue our government if we didn't meet or "voluntary" obligations.
Regarding the full text of the agreement, I did numerous word searches using typical terms regarding making legal claims and found no matches.
I see nothing in the article or agreement that supports your quoted claim above.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:38 pm to jb4
Apparently KAC's husband is mad at Trump over the tweets.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:41 pm to jb4
That mayor is a muslim alsonisnt he? Europe is hopeless unless they kick these fricks out of their country!
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:41 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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So after a YUGE terror attack in London, Trump is trolling and making this into a political issue.
How is this not a political issue?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:44 pm to cwill
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This link and article matches what I posted above and not your assertion:
of ccourse it does.
Right from the article
A private party might now sue the government, claiming that the Trump administration’s environmental regulatory changes (including rescinding, changing, or failing to enact rules) violated this U.S. commitment.
Why? Because Article 4.11 of the agreement allows signatories to adjust a nationally determined contribution “with a view to enhancing its level of ambition, in accordance with guidance adopted by the Conference of the Parties serving as the meeting of the parties to this agreement.”
A plaintiff environmental group, for example, might argue that environmental regulatory relief would not “enhance” the Obama administration’s commitment. Rather, the plaintiff might claim that it would undercut that commitment, and therefore violate the Paris Agreement.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:53 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
My friend...I don't know what you're reading, none of that equates to your claim:
It does match up with what I posted in my initial response:
Try again?
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That's not entirely true, because the agreement allowed other countries to use OUR court system to sue our government if we didn't meet or "voluntary" obligations.
It does match up with what I posted in my initial response:
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I've read an argument that environmental groups might have used the Agreement as a basis to sue as Trump rolls back green house gas emission limitations...he's going to get sued regardless. But that's not what you're saying...that's why I'm asking for the link.
Try again?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 3:05 pm to jb4
Mayor fires back.
LINK
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In a statement, the mayor’s office said Khan “has more important things to do than respond to Donald Trump's ill-informed tweet that deliberately takes out of context his remarks urging Londoners not to be alarmed when they saw more police — including armed officers — on the streets.”
LINK
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 6/5/17 at 3:15 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Mayor fires back.
Duh....of course he does. He has to figure out how to deal with radical islamic terrorism instead of pretending it isn't an issue.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 3:58 pm to jb4
Mayor of London
3 attacks in as many weeks
And people are upset about what Trump is saying?
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Mayor Sadiq Khan warned Londoners that terrorist attacks are “part and parcel” of living in a big city
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No reason to be alarmed
3 attacks in as many weeks
And people are upset about what Trump is saying?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 4:35 pm to League Champs
Context, brah.
He's telling people not to be alarmed by the presence of a bunch of armed police and military on the streets of London.
He's telling people not to be alarmed by the presence of a bunch of armed police and military on the streets of London.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 4:41 pm to jb4
God, I love Our President so much!
We're lucky to have him folks!
We're lucky to have him folks!
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