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Trump completely bungled DACA.

Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Numberwang
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:02 pm
He loses much of his base with amnesty, and he loses politically because Schumer and Pelosi will take credit for it for those who wanted DACA amnesty.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:03 pm to
I'm sure Ivanka will come up with a solution for Daddy
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:03 pm to
When did you start believing what Pelosi and Schumer says?
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:03 pm to
Melt!
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

He loses much of his base with amnesty,
less than 1%
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:04 pm to
How can something be bungled that hasn't happened yet?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:05 pm to
I know

It is like these assholes have never done a negotiation
Posted by IceTiger
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:08 pm to
quote:


He loses much of his base with amnesty, and he loses politically because Schumer and Pelosi will take credit for it for those who wanted DACA amnesty


What in the frick are you talking about?

You hear anything he's said?

It's not going to be amnesty, they just aren't going to throw the bums out, and at some point, they will decide the path to citizenship, or go to whichever country we stole them from
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:10 pm to
It's easy

No big beautiful 30 ft high wall, no effing DACA
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
6465 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:16 pm to
He let Pelosi and Schumer play him by getting a statement out first that put him on defense.

He needed to get out a statement that said he made deal on DACA in exchange for wall funding. Would have put them on defense.

Politics and they played it better.

Hopefully he learned something.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Trump completely bungled DACA.

No, he didn't. DACA never should have been enacted. He's forcing Congress to do their fricking job.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:29 pm to
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It's not going to be amnesty, they just aren't going to throw the bums out, and at some point, they will decide the path to citizenship, or go to whichever country we stole them from


Amnesty.

And when the kids get amnesty, their parents will also become citizens via chain amnesty.

Some of y'all are in denial still. Trump himself has tweeted that they aren't sending the Dreamers back. This is a 180 from his campaign.

See the light. It's over. A Jeb presidency would be no different.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:30 pm to
When the Dreamers and their parents are given full citizenship, Texas goes blue and its all over. This is it. This is exactly the outcome you would have gotten via Jeb.

Also, there's no Wall. It's "fences being repaired", etc.

I've defended Trump since he started running. He's cucked out. It's over.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:31 pm to
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When the Dreamers and their parents are given full citizenship


This is key to the upcoming negotiations. This needs to be item #1 and wall construction (or some permanent security measures) needs to be #1A
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 1:32 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:31 pm to
Lol

They hit a false message out and he squashed it this morning. What harm was done, that you perceive anyway?
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:32 pm to
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Also, there's no Wall. It's "fences being repaired", etc.


Mending fences on the border, mending fences with the Democrats.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:34 pm to
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This is key to the upcoming negotiations.


If they give the kids amnesty, they can't possibly send the parents back. Who wants to "tear families apart OMG!!!"

Conservative politics are doomed forever in the US as soon as these folks are given citizenship. This is the globalist play, and Trump is giving the globalists exactly what they wanted.

frick Trump. Impeach him. I don't give a shite. I'd rather have Pence at this point.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32654 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:36 pm to
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If they give the kids amnesty


I was talking about citizenship. There 100% absolutely can be no path to citizenship for these folks. They broke the law and we are letting them stay provided they work and don't commit any additional crimes.

Dems will push for path to citizenship but this cannot happen. If it does, I agree Texas goes blue somewhere in the near future and the Republic is lost.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68302 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:41 pm to
You think he's going to feel bound by what pelosi said he said?

This is a long way from over. Little to nothing has happened yet.
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