re: Trump/Carrier Deal information

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And liberals find a way to complain about this.

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Liberals will...but labor won't. I am sold...I don't give a frick how much it costs....save any American job and to hell with the fall out. Tariffs and protectionism.....cut taxes, spend like hell and tell our creditors to kiss our arse and find someone else capable of making them money like we can...the bastards will come crawling back begging us to borrow more and more from them.

We are all looking at the future through a lens we have been strapped to for centuries but that motherfricker was destroyed on November the 8th, 2016. Keynes is right....you can borrow and spend your way to success but you gotta do so from a position of strength and we have spent more than the next 20 or so frickers combined who might have something to say about how we conduct business on making sure we had the biggest fricking stick on the playground for at least 40 years....frick 'em.


It ain't for the feint of heart though...it will be all to easy to blink when things get tough...we must simply stay the course...cut taxes, spend money like we print it (we do, after all) and tell our creditors to kiss our rusty red buttocks!

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Tax incentives? You mean crony capitalism....It isn't okay when Obama did it, and it's not okay with Trump does it.

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Y'all did throw a conniption fit when Barry did the same thing with the auto industry and all of that money has been returned....but y'all can have a pass....we were all stuck in an age old state where a man would pay back money he was leant under the terms which it was leant to him....those dark days are behind us now and good riddance to bad memories I say!!! Cut taxes and spend like hell....

The deal is far from perfect and isn't anything like what Trump promised but it's better than nothing. This works out to cost the state ~636 dollars/year/job for each job kept in state which is a pretty good deal.

It does however still lose 1300 over 2 years to Mexico.

It's a start and a decent one at that for the administration.

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Because you aren't big enough for a good photo op. It's terrible but the truth. 60% of the Carrier jobs are still going to Mexico but Trump got great press and that's what's important to him.

Yes let the butt hurt flow through you

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What part of that statement in untrue?

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If you are a true conservative then you should have a problem with this.

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I would love to read your definition of a true conservative before responding. 100% serious.

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Tax incentives? You mean crony capitalism

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The issue here isn't as cut and dry as you are trying to make it.

1- We are not talking Federal Gov here.

2- We are talking state rights.

Under both of those, from a conservative and CONSTITUTIONAL stand point, BOTH have the right to tax due to representation that the citizens of the US and States elect and send to both the US capital and the State capital.

Here, you have the federal Gov stating "we are going to decrease regulation on businesses by the federal gov."

Then you have a state who is saying we will give you a tax incentive to stay.

Neither is crony.

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.It isn't okay when Obama did it, and it's not okay with Trump does it.

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I'm going to need you to give a bit more details on that.

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Giving tax incentives to one company in an industry is crony capitalism.

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Is there another company like Carrier in Indiana?

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What about Carrier's competitors?

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They are going to benefit from the same things Carrier is going to by the Federal Gov.

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Additionally, having the Federal Government threaten business via potentially losing government contracts is an absolute overreach of power.

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It absolutely is not. Why should the US gov use TAXPAYER money to pay NON US citizen's wages? I don't know of many people that would agree with that.

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Wrong is wrong no matter who is in power.

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True... And using your last example. Wrong is when a politician takes money from foreign companies or gov and awards those companies with contracts at the expense of Americans. OR when they kill a pipeline because the Saudi's need their oil sold at a higher price. OR When a President places regulation on new finds so that they can get foreign money.

Solid substantive comment. You add a lot to this board.

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1000 families were helped, good for Trump and his staff.

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More than 1000 families. Maybe learn where families in middle america spend their dollars and follow that money. Then MAYBE (doubtful) you will understand how many more families that actually helped.

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the backdoor deals and extortion that went on is not the precedent the administration needs to set when dealing with corporations. Trump basically extorted this company with threats to its defense contracts.

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Money collected in taxes from Americans should never be awarded to Corps paying that money to Non US citizens.

IF they don't want the contracts to employee Americans, there are others that will gladly accept the load and HIRE Americans.

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Yay Trump, very ethical.

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Yes it is. He's the President of the USA. His job is to put the US citizens above the world! It's taxes collected from the US citizens and they are to be better stewards of that money.

The un-ethical issue is in the company.. taking US tax dollars and moving their businesses to foreign countries.