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re: Trump approval rating in the 30's!! Is that possible?

Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:47 am to
Posted by VOLhalla
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:47 am to
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An outlier, but they are one of the most accurate as of late. And that is verifiable with empirical data.


The 2016 Rasmussen Presidential poll and the current approval poll are different polls with different methodologies. For starters the 2016 Presidential poll wasn't a tracking poll.

And almost every major national poll called the actual results within their MOE. Rasmussen was one of many polls that were right.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:48 am to
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Trump approval rating in the 30's!! Is that possible?
Nope!

Not when RightTrack-WrongTrack numbers look like this:



Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:52 am to
Are you serious?
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:52 am to
Spin? I wasn't pointing out that only about 1/4 of the population voted for trump as a put down, only to explain to OP how someone can win the Presidency and deliver on their promises and still be wildly unpopular. You don't need the support of a majority of the country in order to become President.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:53 am to
How are you going to second guess Rasmussen without similarly scrutinizing other polls that have his rating much lower, especially when these same polls wildly missed his support leading up to the election?

The numbers don't lie and as much as it grates you, the people who supported him on January haven't gone anywhere. He has majority support for every legislative action he has taken, and the public is now completely ambivalent, if not doubtful about the media's slanted coverage.
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 10:57 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:53 am to
So apparently his approval rating is somewhere between 30-60% depending on the poll.

I'd say that's evidence that the polls are still fricked.
Posted by olddawg26
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:54 am to
Things we hate are fake
Posted by Rakim
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:55 am to
#FakePolls
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:56 am to
The next poll that matters is in November 2020.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:56 am to
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And almost every major national poll called the actual results within their MOE.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:56 am to
Only 14.5% voted for him.

30s is pretty good.

46% of registered voters voted for him or mrs c.

70% registered.

He got 22% of 70%.

Most people did not vote for him
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:58 am to
Yes. Here are the last national polls conducted before the election:

LINK

Hillary won by 2.3 and most polls have a MOE of a couple of points.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4418 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 11:00 am to
I'm going to second guess the Rasmussen approval poll because of the problems I've listed. Other polls aren't tracking and don't limit themselves to likely voters. Do any of these other polls exclude cell phones too?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39464 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 11:01 am to
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Only 14.5% voted for him.


What a hack. You are trying to measure his support against the entire population of the united states and you still failed.

His percent votes against total population is 19.5%
Obama's reelection total was 20%
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 11:02 am to
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There is no irony here given the length of time he has been in office and the pace he has moved to this point.

If you were being honest with us and yourself, you (and I) know that there is nothing that Trump, the administration or this congress can do that you will consider as "delivering". When Gorsich gets through (and he will) that will be yet another huge delivery by that time coming on the heels of repeal/replace, tax reform, etc.

I think this is not so much about what he has failed to deliver, but more your palpable fear that he will do exactly as he promised.
The OP said "delivered". That means done. Very little is done. I don't know why you are trying to argue on that point.
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 11:03 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39464 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 11:02 am to
LV's and RV's consistently provide more accurate data, you loon.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 11:03 am to
You don't get how it works. Survey monkey over sampled Clinton. Take sample and actual votes. And it needs to be done with states, not an aggregated popular vote. But you could do it with an aggregate popular vote, and still doesn't further who was most accurate.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4418 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 11:07 am to
More accurate for Presidential results, not general approval
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 11:09 am to
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Who has landlines nowadays



Who uses cash anymore??
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4418 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 11:12 am to
I'm having a hard time understanding what you posted. National polling accurately called the national vote. Almost every poll was within their MOE of the actual results.
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