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re: True or False: climate change

Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:21 pm to
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I swear to god if you pull a CptBengal here
I have no idea what that means. But you're getting closer.

Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:25 pm to
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But you're getting closer.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:18 pm to
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Most of it.


Most of it?? Great! Then you have many examples to choose from. What are a couple of them?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:25 pm to
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Most of it.


Hey losh...here's the existence of a point. What percentage of the atmosphere is made up of CO2?
Both naturally occurring and man made...what would the percentage of the whole equal for CO2?
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:31 pm to
Anyone know where bmy went?? He disappeared after I asked this question


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Lets establish a baseline. bmy...what percentage of the atmosphere is CO2, naturally occurring and man made? What would that percentage be?




Why do you suppose that is??
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:55 pm to
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Anyone know where bmy went??


He posted:

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to be clear you're saying that there would be no difference in the climate of the 3 planets? i'm not an alarmist or anything.. i think we should strive to control the climate to do the greatest amount of good possible
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And I asked:

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Who decides what's best?

Do we let a UN committee tell us we need to do to "maximize" the climate? Who decides if South Africa benefits at Canada's expense, or if the US should curtail emissions so New Guinea's benefits?


I wonder why he left?
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:57 pm to
They always run away.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:20 pm to
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Most of it?? Great! Then you have many examples to choose from. What are a couple of them?
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Hey losh...here's the existence of a point. What percentage of the atmosphere is made up of CO2?
Both naturally occurring and man made...what would the percentage of the whole equal for CO2?
See, now you're not even waiting for your copypasta to be answered before moving on to a different argument. It's a Gish gallop.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:35 pm to
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See, now you're not even waiting for your copypasta to be answered before moving on to a different argument. It's a Gish gallop.


You're projecting again.

So you can only handle 1 question at a time. Fine with me. Pick which one you want and answer it. You have no problem with that, right?
Posted by bmy
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:08 pm to
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Like volcanoes?

No, we can't reproduce volcanoes.

You fail.



But if we could.. could we alter the climate? Hypothetically speaking
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:10 pm to
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So you can only handle 1 question at a time. Fine with me. Pick which one you want and answer it.
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Hey losh...here's the existence of a point. What percentage of the atmosphere is made up of CO2?
A little over 0.04%. Where's the point?
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 3:11 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:15 pm to
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Who decides what's best?

Do we let a UN committee tell us we need to do to "maximize" the climate? Who decides if South Africa benefits at Canada's expense, or if the US should curtail emissions so New Guinea's benefits?

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Anyone know where bmy went??


I was at work.. sometimes resource damage assessment takes both hands

Good question. Don't have a great answer.. but that doesn't mean there isn't an answer out there. A global government could do it.. but not in todays world

This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 3:24 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:20 pm to
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Doesn't that seem a bit arrogant???


Yes. It also seems arrogant to assume that we can't alter a planets climate.

Why is Dale bitching about his question going unanswered when he never answered the question the thread is based on
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48294 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:28 pm to
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A global government could do it..


You nailed it. Thank you for being open about it.

I thank you for your honesty because "Global Government" is the goal of the entire Globalist and Climate Change agenda.

Global Government: the "Next Phase of Human History". Nation-States are, according to the Globalists, out-dated, racist and dangerous. Subjugate the sovereignty of the nation-states, ESPECIALLY the USA, so that the Global Govt may work freely to create Paradise on Earth. Who will pay for Paradise? The taxpaying citizens of the USA will pay for it.



Not long ago, one could Google "UN Model for Global Governance" and the UN website would pop up -- the whole proposed structure of the Global Govt was on-line for all to see. Sadly, that website no longer exists.

SO, if you personally are not in favor of Global Government, you are out of step with almost all of your Climate Change churchmembers, and you are certainly out of step with the leaders of the Climate Change Church.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:29 pm to
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I thank you for your honesty because "Global Government" is the goal of the entire Globalist and Climate Change agenda.
Is the Montreal Protocol "global government?"
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48294 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:31 pm to
No, it's a treaty.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:35 pm to
I'm not against the idea of a global government.. I'm against the most likely form it would ultimately take. A global constitution... Sure. Good place to start.

It will all fall apart when we inevitably become an interstellar species anyways
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:49 pm to
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A little over 0.04%. Where's the point?

It's actually a little under 0.04%..about 0.038%

The point is, that volume is the total amount. Of that 0.04% an estimated 3-4% of that is do to human activity. So 3-4 % of 0,04% is the driver of catastrophe?? 0.034% of the whole?..everything is fine..totally natural and healthy. 0.038% of the whole? Horror....panic!

It's just dumb to think such a dramatic change will come from such a minuscule amount, and the science proves it to be an absurdist position.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:56 pm to
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No, it's a treaty.
A treaty would also be sufficient to address global warming. (A good treaty, not Kyoto.)
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 4:10 pm to
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Why is Dale bitching about his question going unanswered when he never answered the question the thread is based on


What question is that.."does the climate change?"
Of course it does, it always has and always will. I have never heard of or read anyone denying that, have you?
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