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Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:24 pm to
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Most of the Fox personalities "win" their time slots
yeah, now they do and bill goes first and their numbers get a bump from his lead in.

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so I'd argue many others are also responsible for contributing to Fox's success
who? who was drawing people to fox in the 90s and early 2000s. i will say that ailes made sure he put Hannity on radio on the same station as rush directly after him which guarantees you millions of listeners and then used it as a promo for the show. Hannity had never done radio, had never been on tv and overnight he has a 3 hour radio show following the biggest act in radio and pretty soon was following the biggest act on cable news.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:24 pm to
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well now i do because everyone should know as of now that settling will be used against you as an admission of wrong doing. every allegation is now the word of god.


this is not new.

Are you saying there was nothing to bill clinton and paula jones?
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that's why many people would settle.

There is a calculation involved in every settlement, and I would trust fox's lawyers to know how to figure it out.

Bill oreilly doesn't change any of these calculations IMHO.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:25 pm to
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That he had a job after 5 harassment settlements in the first place shows some pretty deep loyalty on Fox's part.


5 that we know of. there could be more.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:27 pm to
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That he had a job after 5 harassment settlements in the first place shows some pretty deep loyalty on Fox's part
huh? no one knew and if the suits weren't legit, why wouldn't they?

loyalty is tested only when you have some shite to potentially lose. and look, if someone offered o'reilly more, he would've been gone in an instant. i understand the way things work and they make sense to me, but occasionally i just wish someone would tell everyone to go frick off especially in isntances where the motive is slimy and the outrage insincere.

the only company has done it is the one company that shouldn't...united
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 12:33 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:31 pm to
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That he had a job after 5 harassment settlements in the first place shows some pretty deep loyalty on Fox's part.


He made them money, the settlements were just another cost of doing business, nothing more.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:31 pm to
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Are you saying there was nothing to bill clinton and paula jones?
that he settled with her does not influence my opinion even more because he's a politician. it's hard to get elected with that shite dragging on in the media.

there are tons of reasons i think bill did it, jakco molested kids (chief among them being his own actions and words) and that bill o'reilly used his position to get some action (because that's a tale as old as time. anyone ever watch the porn where the chick has to suck his dick to get the job? )

but settling a suit didn't (does now i guess) tell me a thing. the black crows settled with a guy who had a napkin with some writing on it and claimed it was a contract...they settled to make the guy just frick off because it's a waste of time and court is expensive and who wants that press. you want your press to be related to what you do.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:40 pm to
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but settling a suit didn't (does now i guess) tell me a thing.

if this is telling you something new, you haven't been paying attention. hell in the last year, trump settled that trumpU thing which a lot of people interrupted him as realizing he was going to lose.

Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:48 pm to
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The eventual death of corporate America. All PC, no balls.


Underrated post.
Posted by LSUJuicer
Member since Jan 2013
3351 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:49 pm to
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Crazy how desperate the left is for a win nowadays


Similar to 45 calling last nights election results a win. LOL.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:50 pm to
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hell in the last year, trump settled that trumpU thing which a lot of people interrupted him as realizing he was going to lose.
actually there was something during the primaries they were saying why haven't you settled and at the debate he said he doesn't settle on principle (which is obviously an exaggeration if not lie because he then settled this)

but hey, now everyone is clear. there is NO benefit to settling an extortion suit.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:56 pm to
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Similar to 45 calling last nights election results a win. LOL.





It was a win. That was most probably the Dem's only shot.


As for O'Reilly, regardless of how much of it is true, it just proves the old adage; Never dip your pen in the company ink.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:02 pm to
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5 that we know of. there could be more.


You can pretty much be sure of that imo. For every one woman that wasn't too terrified to report something in that rape culture Fox fostered, you can pretty much be sure 2 more didnt report it. The shite went all the way to the top.

Pathetic.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67061 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:05 pm to
Totally fine with this. I never really liked his show. Bill needs to be replaced with a conservative satire show, a fox news version of The Daily Show. They need someone young, funny, and charismatic.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42559 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:07 pm to
Totally agree - unless he did something extremely physical or used his influence to sabotage/accelerate a woman's career (See Bill Clinton for the archetypical example of this) then he was just acting normally.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27430 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:08 pm to
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but he got his real start on inside edition. it was a tabloid show.


As an out front personality...yes. But he was a reporter for CBS and ABC News. He was in Argentina for the Falklands War and covered for ABC....he's not like a Hannity whao was a DJ or Tucker who has been running around as a pundit most of his life
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:08 pm to
Nothing is new. It's always "the conservative version of" or "political version of"

If you're going to knock somebody off, just steal bill maher's gimmick
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:08 pm to
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There are a lot of hacks on TV and O'Reilly is an a-hole off the air, but in my opinion he was generally pretty fair in his commentary and his Talking Points were usually right on the money. Hate that is gone now.


Agree. I met O'Reilly very briefly...definitely an a-hole from what I saw. If I had a nice pair of tits he might have been more approachable?

Talking Points was the best part of his show. He didn't know what he was talking about when it came to firearms. I very much liked his interruptions of spinners. But he has become pompous with interruptions wanting to support his opinion.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27430 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:10 pm to
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I'm a loyal Fox News watcher who's very pleased by this recent development.
There are many of us.


Then you don't watch Fox News...because without O'Reilly as the lead in at night, no one would really watch Hannity or for that matter Tucker or ( Greta / Megyn) and I will bet the ratings slip...big time
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48926 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:16 pm to
has this been confirmed?

they better put Lou Dobbs in that spot
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67061 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:16 pm to
But his gimmick was boring. Only old people watched the O'Reilly Factor. It wasn't informative or entertaining. If you're going to be a partisan shill, at least try and have a sense of humor.
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