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Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:10 pm to Ebbandflow
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:10 pm to Ebbandflow
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CNN is entertainment, just like Fox. Neither is news
a different discussion than the one we're having though I don't disagree. Prince dying was endlessly discussed on all of the networks for 2 weeks.
what i'm saying is that fox doesn't really make any bones about having a conservative slant. No one honestly thinks fox or msnbc are straight down the middle. CNN is a different story. Fox is distinguished from both of them by not having been caught red handed fabricating something and then presenting it as current news. They also haven't been busted rigging a debate.
cnn rigged a debate...not even remotely in question. Hillary's campaign received debate questions from someone employed by CNN. This is a matter of indisputable fact
now is it reasonable for me to believe that CNN rigged the debate between trump and Hillary while the same person was employed there? You bet. It's also reasonable to just assume that they did it...I hope trump blacklists them and only them.
the only way I see them regaining credibility is by completely cleaning house...completely and even then it would take some time for them to regain trust by reporting the news honestly and somehow open their network up to the public as a way of providing transparency.
that won't happen. cnn by this time next year if not sooner will have fired jeff zucker but it won't be enough. their ratings post election are in the toilet.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 3:12 pm
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:10 pm to Y.A. Tittle
i just don't count Bill and Hillary down for the count
never doubt a Clinton
Chelsea is about to run for Congress
never doubt a Clinton
Chelsea is about to run for Congress
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:12 pm to DelU249
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now is it reasonable for me to believe that CNN rigged the debate between trump and Hillary while the same person was employed there? You bet. It's also reasonable to just assume that they did it...I hope trump blacklists them and only them.
Democrats should black list them as well. It was a Democratic Party primary debate that was rigged by CNN, after all.
It's not just CNN's brand that was damaged here.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:12 pm to DelU249
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Hillary's campaign received debate questions from someone employed by CNN
a debate hosted by CNN no less
and, again, against Bernie...not Trump, which makes it worse
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:13 pm to DelU249
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their ratings post election are in the toilet.
Speaking of ratings - Fox Business has caught up with CNBC. They've even surpassed CNBC in some time slots.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:13 pm to member12
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Democrats should black list them as well. It was a Democratic Party primary debate that was rigged by CNN, after all.
why would they? it wasn't Bernie's turn
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and, again, against Bernie...not Trump, which makes it worse
If you are a high ranking Democrat that has to ameliorate concerns of rigged primaries, do you ban CNN from hosting debates in the future?
They've clearly proven to the entire country that they can't be trusted.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:14 pm to member12
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They've clearly proven to the entire country that they can't be trusted.
the only thing they've shown DEMs is that they can't be trusted not to get caught
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Chelsea is about to run for Congress
I would question the collective sanity of any district that votes for her moreso than even the one that votes for Sheila Jackson-Lee every two years. I understand it would likely be whatever district encompasses their Chappaqua home. It's still no less unbelievable that rational individuals would actually choose to do such a thing.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:17 pm to DelU249
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the only way I see them regaining credibility is by completely cleaning house...completely and even then it would take some time for them to regain trust by reporting the news honestly and somehow open their network up to the public as a way of providing transparency.
Trump winning the presidency is only going to encourage CNN to produce more dishonest, fake news stories.
Their viewership may be higher or lower in 18 months, but their credibility isn't coming back. You can't recover from a year like they had.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:x infinity
i said this many times, but if there is one institution who truly came off poorly in this election, it's the mainstream, liberal media
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:20 pm to Frank Black
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i said this many times, but if there is one institution who truly came off poorly in this election, it's the mainstream, liberal media
Yet these are the ones, after pissing away credibility and losing influence, are calling their competitors "fake".
Their whole problem is that people see through them, and associate their bullshite with the progressive left's march towards censorship and their war on free speech.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:20 pm to Y.A. Tittle
man there is this weird, cult-like fascination with the Clintons
esp in Dem circles with people who were around for Bill's run in the 90s
people just have the want to be a part of them
esp in Dem circles with people who were around for Bill's run in the 90s
people just have the want to be a part of them
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
Sarcastic Libertarian just posted this
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:unless they get a sitting democrat to step aside or find a seat occupied by a republican on the hot seat, I don't see Chelsea getting being elected to congress. there's always the possibility they run against someone on whom they have dirt.
i just don't count Bill and Hillary down for the count
never doubt a Clinton
Chelsea is about to run for Congress
if she ran against a sitting democrat in a primary, they would destroy her.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:29 pm to DelU249
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:that will die with those people. the dems awe struck by the Clintons are old, very old.
cult-like fascination with the Clintons
she got a tough run from a 70 year old socialist with a much younger, but fat and disgusting wife and a bastard kid. they're about to make a keith "the jews perpetrated 9/11" the head of the dnc.
the Clinton dynasty is dead. Chelsea has a quarter of a billion dollar fortune to inherit and unlike queen count and king cigar, she has no ambition. if she runs, it's because her parents pressured her. they don't want to die knowing their dynasty dies with them.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 4:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
Well, everything that they don't like is fake news. It's also why Hillary lost the election.
It could not possibly be because the Democratic party was exposed by a populist for not giving a shite about middle America.
It could not possibly be because the Democratic party was exposed by a populist for not giving a shite about middle America.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 4:01 pm to LuckyTiger
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The credibility of the mainstream media is zero.
Very much so.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 4:04 pm to Ebbandflow
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Lol. Ok. Fox gets busted all of the time.
400 fox news lies
let's see what you have
quote:was the phone number or address wrong?
Fox Business host Lou Dobbs tweets phone number and address of Donald Trump sexual assault accuser
quote:it's ridiculous to be sure, but you should read what you link. She said this on an interview on CNN and again the point was that they've never been busted the way CNN was busted by WikiLeaks. I suspect fox does all the same shite. MSNBC absolutely does. They just don't pretend to be what CNN pretends to be
Megyn Kelly: Fox News Had to Explain to Trump Lawyer Why It Would Be Bad if I Were Killed
what else do you have
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Fox News apologizes for falsely reporting that Clinton faces indictment
“I was quoting from one source about his certainty that the server had been hacked by five foreign intelligence agencies. .?.?. As of today there still are no digital fingerprints of a breach, no matter what the working assumption is within the bureau.”
As an addendum, he added, “We stand by the sourcing on the ongoing, active Clinton Foundation investigation and are working to get sources with knowledge of the details on the record and on camera, hopefully today.”
he mischaracterized something and apologized. don't get me wrong it was awful, but we're talking about cnn being caught fabricating news and rigging a debate. this doesn't meet that standard. is your point that fox sucks? because i don't disagree and i'm not saying CNN sucks. i'm saying they got caught fabricating news and they got caught rigging a debate which puts them in a stratosphere that only they occupy.
let's continue
quote:again, fox sucks...saying they're better than cnn is really just an indictment on news. if i say i'm smarter than ebbandflow i'm not necessarily saying that i'm smart
Fox News wrongly links Republican anti-Trump protester to voter fraud
(just breaking balls) the rest of your links seem to be rehashes or stories about Hannity (who isn't a journalist and one of the few things i can say about him that's not negative is that he no longer pretends to be)
do you get the point? what CNN got caught doing is unprecedented. they let Hillary's campaign interview trump and cruz or attempted to...and they rigged a debate for a candidate who was still there when they hosted the first debate between trump and Clinton. Moreover they offered no explanation as to how brazile got the questions nor did they take responsibility as an organization even though she worked for cnn. they actually absolved themselves by saying that she gave the questions to Hillary's campaign within the scope of her employment at the DNC
yeah but how did she have them? 
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