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Three People arrested for "Hate Crimes" for passing out White Supremacist pamphlets.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:23 pm
Look, I'm not down with discrimination, but arresting people for passing out pamphlets is just out of control.
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Is this not a form of free speech?
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Is this not a form of free speech?
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Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:25 pm to geauxkoo
If I disagree with what you are handing out, you are performing a hate crime
- Marxists
- Marxists
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:27 pm to geauxkoo
Did you read the article? They weren’t standing on a public side walk passing it out, there were targeting Jewish and black churches. You could argue to intimidate them.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:27 pm to geauxkoo
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Is this not a form of free speech?
free speech is no longer allowed in the new liberal world order, you no longer have any rights
jan 6th political prisoners are still in jail after 2 years and have not yet even been told what crime they are charged with or been given any due process rights
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:28 pm to geauxkoo
Unless they threatened violence, yes. This is stupid. No such thing as a hate crime for passing out literature.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:29 pm to keakar
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free speech is no longer allowed in the new liberal world order, you no longer have any rights
None of this is true. Just throwing that out there.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:29 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
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Did you read the article? They weren’t standing on a public side walk passing it out, there were targeting Jewish and black churches. You could argue to intimidate them.
So when a black person giving a presentation on critical race theory tells all the white people in the audience they’re racist and need to atone for their privilege, that’s also a hate crime to you right?
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:30 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
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there were targeting Jewish and black churches. You could argue to intimidate them.
You could. Unless they clearly actually threatened them, you would fail.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:31 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
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Did you read the article? They weren’t standing on a public side walk passing it out, there were targeting Jewish and black churches. You could argue to intimidate them.
I did read the article, and WGAF how they passed out the pamphlets. Unless the pamphlets were inciting people to harm others, it's still free speech.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:32 pm to geauxkoo
quote:Sounds like it to me.
Look, I'm not down with discrimination, but arresting people for passing out pamphlets is just out of control. Is this not a form of free speech?
(Everyone thinks Voltaire said this. He did not. It is Hall's summary of Voltaire's thoughts.)
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:32 pm to geauxkoo
They taped the papers with swastika and skull to the doors of a black church and a synagogue in an area not dar from Buffalo where people were shot based upon race not too long ago. That is not free speech. That can easily be viewed as threatening.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:33 pm to squid_hunt
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free speech is no longer allowed in the new liberal world order, you no longer have any rights
None of this is true. Just throwing that out there.
free speech is no longer allowed in the new liberal world order, you no longer have any rights
None of this is true. Just throwing that out there.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:33 pm to squid_hunt
quote:Squidward is correct.
there were targeting Jewish and black churches. You could argue to intimidate them.quote:
You could. Unless they clearly actually threatened them, you would fail.
The behavior is crass and disgusting, but it is (or SHOULD BE) protected. A big part of free speech is "the right to say things that offend others."
Did some city or state pass an ordinance or statute that makes this behavior illegal? Maybe. But it will not survive 1st Amendment scrutiny.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:33 pm to Jake88
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hat is not free speech.
It is. It's no different than handing out gospel tracts politically.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:34 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
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Did you read the article? They weren’t standing on a public side walk passing it out, there were targeting Jewish and black churches. You could argue to intimidate them.
Kinda like Supreme Court protestors and their threats? Will they get the same treatment?
We need calendars passed out to know what days count intimidation and which days count as protesting.
And nooooo. I’m not saying passing out hate literature is ok. I’m saying we need some consistency and we need it right freaking now.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:36 pm to squid_hunt
handing out gospel tracts politically
It's not about salvation; it is politics?.
It's not about salvation; it is politics?.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:37 pm to geauxkoo
So the alleged crime is aggravated harassment.
So the contents of the pamphlet probably matter. If you drop off something saying all Jews and black should be round up and shot at a synagogue it probably crosses a line out of free speach.
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A person is guilty of aggravated harassment in the second degree when, with intent to harass, annoy, threaten or alarm another person, he or she: 1. Either (a) communicates with a person, anonymously or otherwise, by telephone, by telegraph, or by mail, or by transmitting or delivering any other form of written communication, in a manner likely to cause annoyance or alarm
So the contents of the pamphlet probably matter. If you drop off something saying all Jews and black should be round up and shot at a synagogue it probably crosses a line out of free speach.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:37 pm to geauxkoo
Free speech makes it difficult to prosecute white supremacy in America
The First Amendment is a major block in investigation and prosecution of a white supremacy group.
Prosecutors were empowered to charge and try large swaths of people in the same case, at the same time, for disparate crimes as long as those crimes were committed in service to the same organization. At trial, prosecutors were able to enter in evidence that may not otherwise be admissible, such as newspaper articles or mob nicknames.
It’s not a written law. It’s a culture.
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The First Amendment is a major block in investigation and prosecution of a white supremacy group.
Prosecutors were empowered to charge and try large swaths of people in the same case, at the same time, for disparate crimes as long as those crimes were committed in service to the same organization. At trial, prosecutors were able to enter in evidence that may not otherwise be admissible, such as newspaper articles or mob nicknames.
It’s not a written law. It’s a culture.
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Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:40 pm to basionok
Our newest troll?
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:41 pm to basionok
Come at me bro. I am here. White, Proud and American.
I love every body, even you.
I love every body, even you.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 12:43 pm
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