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re: Three People arrested for "Hate Crimes" for passing out White Supremacist pamphlets.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:44 pm to basionok
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:44 pm to basionok
quote:
Free speech makes it difficult to prosecute white supremacy in America
The First Amendment is a major block in investigation and prosecution of a white supremacy group.
Which is why white supremacist groups have never been prosecuted.
Correct??
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Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:46 pm to themunch
quote:He works at a troll farm in St. Petersburg.
Basionik
Our newest troll?
It is hilarious to watch most of his threads. He writes some pro-Russian or anti-Ukraine tome, and it drops and drops and drops without much response. So he then bumps it again himself.
I have seen him bump is own dying threads five or six times per thread.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:50 pm to squid_hunt
quote:There is a huge difference. The posted threatening images to the doors of a black church and synagogue. If you can't discern the difference there is something wrong with you.
It is. It's no different than handing out gospel tracts politically
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:54 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
quote:
targeting Jewish and black churches. You could argue to intimidate them.
They seem like major shitbags. The question is...did they threaten them? If not, then there is no crime against being an a-hole. If so, then twitter, Reddit, Democratic Underground, and the OT would be shut down with quickness.
Hell, Mingo would be UNDER the jail just for his views on fatties.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:55 pm to basionok
So you are not a fan of free speech and are clearly a shite heel Marxist
Got it.
Your opinion is worthless
Got it.
Your opinion is worthless
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:55 pm to Jake88
quote:
The posted threatening images to the doors of a black church and synagogue.
Have you seen some gospel tracts? It's not a threat unless it threatens them directly. Just having a picture of a dead pig isn't a threat against Muslims or a hate crime.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:01 pm to Jake88
quote:
That can easily be viewed as threatening.
Talk about a slippery slope.
I “view” that as threatening...off to prison you go.
Was it in poor taste...yes.
Are they shitbags for doing so...absolutely.
Are they “criminals” because you get to determine what offends you...no.
frick them for being assholes, but “view this as threatening” as the basis for a hate crime opens the criminal justice system up to levying capricious and arbitrary imprisonments.
Next time, someone may be “offended” by you.
Just saying.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:02 pm to keakar
quote:
jan 6th political prisoners are still in jail after 2 years and have not yet even been told what crime they are charged with or been given any due process rights
Good. The reality is most are unable to post a bond, in some cases just a few hundred dollars. Almost like a bunch of losers went to the Capitol on 6 January.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:02 pm to Jake88
quote:
The posted threatening images to the doors of a black church and synagogue. If you can't discern the difference there is something wrong with you.
Define “threatening images.”
Again frick these people for being shitbags.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:08 pm to Lakeboy7
quote:
Lakeboy7
You just outed yourself as a goose-stepping communazi that has no issues with the concept of housing political prisoners without due process.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:10 pm to SammyTiger
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So the contents of the pamphlet probably matter. If you drop off something saying all Jews and black should be round up and shot at a synagogue it probably crosses a line out of free speach.
This
However, how does this:
quote:
A person is guilty of aggravated harassment in the second degree when, with intent to harass, annoy, threaten or alarm another person, he or she: 1. Either (a) communicates with a person, anonymously or otherwise, by telephone, by telegraph, or by mail, or by transmitting or delivering any other form of written communication, in a manner likely to cause annoyance or alarm
Pass muster.
I mean, if BLM or ANIFA “annoyed“ someone...
arrest them all?
Whoever wrote that would have put Gandhi in jail on the regular.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:11 pm to Lakeboy7
quote:
Good. The reality is most are unable to post a bond, in some cases just a few hundred dollars. Almost like a bunch of losers went to the Capitol on 6 January.
Are you retarded??? Did your mom drop you on your head as an infant?
Who cares what they did...Even if they did break the law, they have right to know what they were arrested for. Usually the police have 48 hours to charge someone.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:11 pm to basionok
quote:
Free speech makes it difficult to prosecute
This is true...
The rest of what you posted is shite.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:13 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
The behavior is crass and disgusting, but it is (or SHOULD BE) protected. A big part of free speech is "the right to say things that offend others."
Bingo
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:16 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
Do blacks not target white people with hate speech and in extreme cases demand money or other valuables ?
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:18 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
quote:
You could argue to intimidate them.
that is denying speech because of feelings
if that is the standard, then we have no free speech
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:30 pm to Lakeboy7
quote:
Good. The reality is most are unable to post a bond
well lets throw your arse in jail for 2 years so you lose your job, the bank takes your house away, and the government freezes all you assets like they did with these people so all you have ids the spare change in your pocket.
now lets see if you still have money, and a job, and a house to live in, and can post bail in those same circumstances you Stalinist nazi jackass
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:30 pm to geauxkoo
quote:
Is this not a form of free speech?
Yes, hate speech is protected speech.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:31 pm to keakar
Where are their pics?
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:33 pm to geauxkoo
Hello fellow white supremacy enthusiasts!
Sincerely,
FBI
Sincerely,
FBI
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