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Thread Redux or wow the Sweatervest Republicans were savage back in April.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:51 am
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:51 am
Your Humble Pimpness tried to politely explain things to you, but you weren't having it. Pragmatism, coalitions, opportunity, etc. Read the thread and tell me what you have learned since then.
LINK .
I'm respectfully talking to you-- King Bob,Upgrayedd, BugAC, Corporate Tiger, the808bass,Lou Pai Tiger4liberty,Taurus,Lakeboy7,cornhat,et al.
Respect to you all -but have any of you had Second Thoughts? Have your opinions changed since you responded negatively to me in this thread eight months ago with absolute certainty, insult and ridicule? How do you feel reading your comments now?
LINK .
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Let me explain why what you are seeing is a good thing. For years you have been praying for the cultural pendulum to swing back. You are literally witnessing the CULTURAL BLOW-BACK that you have been predicting. Except you, convinced of your own Conservative ideology (free markets, individual liberty, limited government) always expected a Constitutional Conservative to lead a Cultural Renewal. And here comes a celebrity Populist that has co-opted Conservatism in leading the charge against Cultural Marxism (packed liberal courts, SJW hysteria, Global warming religulists,unlimited immigration, tax-crazy Statists, etc). And you are too blinded by your faith in the sanctity of Conservative principles, to understand that very suddenly , standing by your side, are tens of millions of non-ideological working class Reagan Democrats who are as sick of the way American culture has become largely dysfunctional and unrecognizable as you are. This is what a CULTURAL RESET looks like. It's messy. Ideology is secondary. It seeks an American RENEWAL through non-ideological, common-sense measures. Not through how closely it mirrors a philosophical discussion at National Review headquarters.
It's time to shake your disillusionment off, put on your big boy pants and join the fight. Once you accept reality, it's really a ridiculously easy choice, even if it's not understandably your first choice.
Trump 2016.
I'm respectfully talking to you-- King Bob,Upgrayedd, BugAC, Corporate Tiger, the808bass,Lou Pai Tiger4liberty,Taurus,Lakeboy7,cornhat,et al.
Respect to you all -but have any of you had Second Thoughts? Have your opinions changed since you responded negatively to me in this thread eight months ago with absolute certainty, insult and ridicule? How do you feel reading your comments now?
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:55 am to Lsupimp
But, but, but, my conscience
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:56 am to Lsupimp
So humble you started a thread to rehash a thread you started eight months ago whilst speaking in the third person
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:58 am to Lsupimp
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Lsupimp
What are you referring to exactly? I do remember, and i've stated many times that i was a Cruz guy. I stated many times that the actions of some of the Trumpkins was akin to liberals actions. I still stand by it. I believe i also said that Trump wouldn't get the nomination, and again, in other threads i've gladly admitted when i was wrong.
It took about 2 weeks after the primaries were over before i finally got on the Trump train.
I don't take back anything i've said. I'm still rather perturbed at the idiot trump supporters that were trying to run with the "Cruz's dad is involved with the Kennedy assassination" nonsense. That was and still is very stupid.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:00 pm to Lsupimp
God it hurts me to go back and read the never trump bs. I forgot how stupid that stuff was.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:01 pm to Lsupimp
In addition, i posted this in that thread
And at the time, that was accurate. He did eventually unveil his position, but as of April there wasn't much of a plan.
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Let me ask you this. How did we get Barack Obama? George W. Bush.
Who do you think will follow an authoritarian Trump? An even more authoritarian Democrat.
I don't accept voting in a clown because he has an R by his name.
1) Trump has done nothing to convince me he would stop the out of control government spending.
2) Trump has done nothing to convince me he would sign a repeal replace law of Obamacare
3) Trump has not done anything to convince me he would be for fewer taxes.
4) Trump has not done anything to convince me that he wouldn't me just another rubber stamp for increased aggressions in the M.E.
5) Trump hasn't even convinced me he'd do anything about immigration.
Trump's "believe me i make great deals" is fine for the suckers, but for the people that want detail and intelligent discussion, he has provided none. Until he does so, i will not pull the lever for him. I did not get caught up in the Trump mania. I am not a fan of any politician. Therefore, i did not buy into any of his bullshite.
And at the time, that was accurate. He did eventually unveil his position, but as of April there wasn't much of a plan.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:04 pm to Lsupimp
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tried to politely explain things to you
And by "politely" you started off by insulting anyone that wasn't full on trump at the time. Yeah, you forgot to link that part of the OP of that thread.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:05 pm to Lsupimp
I was obviously wrong that he couldn't win.
I stand by my assertion that this isn't truly a cultural movement. It's a reaction. Just like Obama was a reaction to Bush and the 2008 collapse and a Republican candidate who was chosen on the basis of his support for the Surge in Iraq.
There are cultural movements within the Trump camp. It's not a cohesive coalition moving forward and I'm not sure it carries the day of the Democratic candidate is not Hillary Clinton.
I've seen some good cabinet appointments and some head-scratchers. I've thoroughly enjoyed the liberal melting. But my reservations haven't really been answered and can't be until he's actually President.
ETA: the engineers of political campaigns get a lot of credit and sometimes I think they are simply riding the Lightning bolt. Karl Rove was a savant in 2000. And then not so much. I suspect some of the Trump train conductors are in the same boat. Chesterton said (and I'm unfortunately paraphrasing), "the Reformers are right about what's wrong. They're just wrong about what's right."
I stand by my assertion that this isn't truly a cultural movement. It's a reaction. Just like Obama was a reaction to Bush and the 2008 collapse and a Republican candidate who was chosen on the basis of his support for the Surge in Iraq.
There are cultural movements within the Trump camp. It's not a cohesive coalition moving forward and I'm not sure it carries the day of the Democratic candidate is not Hillary Clinton.
I've seen some good cabinet appointments and some head-scratchers. I've thoroughly enjoyed the liberal melting. But my reservations haven't really been answered and can't be until he's actually President.
ETA: the engineers of political campaigns get a lot of credit and sometimes I think they are simply riding the Lightning bolt. Karl Rove was a savant in 2000. And then not so much. I suspect some of the Trump train conductors are in the same boat. Chesterton said (and I'm unfortunately paraphrasing), "the Reformers are right about what's wrong. They're just wrong about what's right."
This post was edited on 12/16/16 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:07 pm to Lsupimp
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LINK .
I'm drowning in faux intellectual smugness.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:09 pm to DMagic
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So humble you started a thread to rehash a thread you started eight months ago whilst speaking in the third person
Your Humble Pimpness is nothing if not humble. Except nearly impossibly boyishly charming and pleasing to the female eye. But I digress, this isn't about me being ridiculously good-looking, but rather about Sweater vest Republicans and second thoughts.
Bug AC-here's what you said to me rather than discussing the actual substance of what I wrote:
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And that's where i stopped reading. A trumpkin telling people to start being more rational, is akin to a liberal telling people to tell the truth.
Here's the thing, you Trump die hards are the reason some people will never vote Trump.
How do you feel now about reducing my reasoned argument to "You Trump die hards" and other assorted insults? In retrospect, do you understand the argument I was making? Do you agree with it now? Are you glad that you were eventually able to "get the frick over yourself"?
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:11 pm to Lsupimp
This is pathetic.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:12 pm to Lsupimp
Politely explained? No.
Smug explanation of obvious shite.
Smug explanation of obvious shite.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:14 pm to the808bass
quote:
I was obviously wrong
This
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:16 pm to Lsupimp
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How do you feel now about reducing my reasoned argument to "You Trump die hards" and other assorted insults?
Frankly, i completely forgot about this thread. Apparently, it's been sticking with you for 8 months. You need a hobby.
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In retrospect, do you understand the argument I was making?
I don't, because you don't start trying to sway people to your line of thinking by denouncing their viewpoints or by trying to devalue their way of thinking. I still stand by what i was saying 100%. Being a fan of ANY POLITICIAN is what liberals do. It's what gets you the Hillary Clinton's, Barack Obama's, and the like. It's what gets you undying support of a politician even when they are 100% wrong. You apparently, still haven't learned that lesson.
I support Trump. I have ever since about 2 weeks after the primary, after i saw some of his actual positions and some of this Supreme Court picks. He proved himself to me. You, on the other hand, have proved nothing other than your life is absorbed by anonymous posters on the internet. As i stated before, maybe you should get a hobby?
I support Trump, but i'm not fanatical. And i have cautious optimism as i do with all politicians i support. As i always say, "Don't make me regret voting for you."
This post was edited on 12/16/16 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:18 pm to the808bass
Upvote. But I disagree in that I very definitely believe this to be a cultural movement. But I agree that no cultural movement is permanent. Morning in America eventually becomes Hope and Change. Mankind repeats every mistake and lessons remain unlearned. But at least acknowledge the existence of the Tsunami as it looms over you. This year the Tsunami was non-ideological. Ideologues on The Right were very upset to hear this news.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:20 pm to Lsupimp
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Lsupimp
What is your deal? Seriously? What are you expecting from this thread? Do you expect adulation and praise? Are you looking for notoriety/ infamy?
The only person that remembers that thread, is you. And apparently you've been holding on to that thread for 8 months to "show us". You are only showing people how small you are.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:23 pm to BugAC
U still mad
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:24 pm to Lsupimp
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Sweatervest
For the record, what is wrong with a tasteful sweater vest if it is chilly? I have several.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:28 pm to Lsupimp
As I have said: Trump makes me cautiously optimistic for all of the reasons stated, however, I will continue to be critical of him when he does something contrary to my principles, and praise him when he furthers those ends.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:30 pm to BugAC
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You need a hobby.You, on the other hand, have proved nothing other than your life is absorbed by anonymous posters on the internet. As i stated before, maybe you should get a hobby? What is your deal? Seriously? What are you expecting from this thread? Do you expect adulation and praise? Are you looking for notoriety/ infamy?The only person that remembers that thread, is you. And apparently you've been holding on to that thread for 8 months to "show us". You are only showing people how small you are.
I can see I touched a nerve with you. You are taking this very, very personally. No need for all the anger and personal venom.
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