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re: Those of you who give a shite about GA-6 are what is wrong with this country

Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by skiptumahloo
Member since Mar 2017
714 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:39 pm to
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On the issues of monetary policy, foreign policy, state surveillance, civil liberties and mass incarceration, there is virtually zero difference between the two parties.


You couldn't be more wrong. Republicans are pro tax cuts for the wealthy, pro war, pro unlimited state surveillance, pro mandatory minimum sentences, pro repealing Dodd-Frank, against reinstating Glass-Steagall.

Yes, Bill Clinton was a part of creating some of these problems, but you don't get a free pass to be intellectually lazy today because Democrats weren't as progressive 20 years ago as they are now.

Today, Democrats are largely pro increased taxes on the wealthy in order to sure up the social safety net, anti-war and anti-interventionist, opposed to the patriot act and pro net neutrality, opposed to unlimited surveillance, anti private prisons, pro criminal justive reform, pro Dodd-Frank, and increasingly pro reinstating Glass-Steagall.

The uni-party is joke that intellectually lazy people tell themselves so that they don't feel pressured to think. The Democratic party is a serious party that is far from perfect but is by and large actually trying to conduct the people's business. The Republican party has become a joke that props up its existence by preying upon people's fears and prejudices.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19670 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:44 pm to
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Republicans are pro tax cuts for the wealthy, 
it's impossible to cut taxes on anybody but the wealthy, because they are the only ones paying taxes. Also, go frick yourself
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18054 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:48 pm to
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Today, Democrats are largely pro increased taxes on the wealthy in order to sure up the social safety net, anti-war and anti-interventionist, opposed to the patriot act


Today? As opposed a few years ago when Obama was expanding the Patriot Act and we were toppling regimes in Libya?
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9240 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:49 pm to
My apologies....15 years in politics and being from the Maryland/DC area is not a career politician. She is still the typical old school republican that I dislike.
Posted by skiptumahloo
Member since Mar 2017
714 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:19 pm to
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sorry you don't like the truth. You probably are among the 45% of Americans that pay no federal income tax or get back more than they put in.


Nope, but tell yourself that if it makes you feel better, white trash.
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:25 pm to
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Regardless of whoever wins, we all lose.


My life doesn't hinge on one of fourteen representatives from Georgia.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14477 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:38 pm to
Wait, didn't they make a movie almost about this? Oh yeah.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11804 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 12:16 am to
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The uni-party is joke that intellectually lazy people tell themselves so that they don't feel pressured to think.


quote:

The Democratic party is a serious party that is far from perfect but is by and large actually trying to conduct the people's business.



Bless your heart.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5830 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:03 am to
Most of us don't care. The people that are on the poli board do care because it is something we can argue about.

If Ossoff wins or keeps it close it will be a major win for the democrats. A win for Handel will be a I told you so for the GOP.

This election doesn't matter because republicans will more than likely win the GA-6th in 2018.

This election is a waste of money for both parties.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35952 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:51 am to
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Today, Democrats are largely pro increased taxes on the wealthy in order to sure up the social safety net, anti-war and anti-interventionist, opposed to the patriot act and pro net neutrality, opposed to unlimited surveillance, anti private prisons, pro criminal justice reform

The sad thing is you actually believe this. The Democratic candidate you voted for supported the war on terror, the Iraq war, the war in Libya and wanted war in Syria, all the while overseeing drone bombing campaigns in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia.

The candidate you voted for supported the Patriot Act. And the two men who have done more to expose the surveillance apparatus, Edward Snowden and Julian Assange, your candidate sought to ratchet up fears against them by calling them traitors or Russian agents with zero proof.

Your candidate's husband signed mandatory minimum sentencing legislation during his presidency and your candidate does not support ending the drug war, which is the quickest and easiest way to end the mass incarceration of Americans.

It's about your actions, not your words. The fact is, the Democratic Party has absolutely nothing to do with progressivism, despite the fact that brainwashed people like you still believe it.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:13 am to
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On the issues of monetary policy, foreign policy, state surveillance, civil liberties and mass incarceration, there is virtually zero difference between the two parties. I'd say Goldennugget is the one who sees the light. The reason we have crooks for politicians is because the majority of Americans keep voting in the same two parties, who each have an incentive to purge our national political discussion of any serious alternative.



There is no reason anyone who thinks that all politicians are scum and there is no difference between the parties shouldn't run for office and change the party.......sitting around whining about it is childish.....change it if it means so much to you....if it doesn't you are jaunt as much a part of the problem as anyone or anything.....
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35952 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:35 am to
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change the party

The two most recent examples of politicians trying to change the substantive platforms of the two major political parties were Bernie Sanders in 2016 and Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012. In Bernie's case, the DNC was effectively rigged to get Clinton elected. In Dr. Paul's case, his campaign was virtually ignored by the mainstream media, even in relation to candidates who performed far more poorly than he.

You cannot change these two parties from within. They are inherently corrupt. You have to effectuate change through a third or fourth party. But how is one supposed to do that? State election laws make it hard to even get on the ballot in state and local elections. Even if you do, how is your platform to get any coverage when the media effectively blacks out any third party? How much air time did Gary Johnson and Jill Stein get?

You seem to be blaming the people that want a third way for not ending the two-party duopoly when, in reality, the two parties have enacted sufficient obstructions to effectively protect themselves from any viable competition.
Posted by pressurized
Member since Aug 2013
590 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:55 pm to
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My amateur local opinion is Handel wins by at least 5%. I will drunken bump this thread when appropriate.

Bumpity Bump.

Handel by 6%, my bad guys.



Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:57 pm to
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Nope, but tell yourself that if it makes you feel better, white trash.



Well vermin, half the country pays no income taxes so do tell us how they would get tax cuts.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:05 pm to
Nuggs will claim the Jews hacked the election and the dims will claim it was Russian Jews
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:41 pm to
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The two most recent examples of politicians trying to change the substantive platforms of the two major political parties were Bernie Sanders in 2016 and Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012. In Bernie's case, the DNC was effectively rigged to get Clinton elected. In Dr. Paul's case, his campaign was virtually ignored by the mainstream media, even in relation to candidates who performed far more poorly than he. You cannot change these two parties from within. They are inherently corrupt. You have to effectuate change through a third or fourth party. But how is one supposed to do that? State election laws make it hard to even get on the ballot in state and local elections. Even if you do, how is your platform to get any coverage when the media effectively blacks out any third party? How much air time did Gary Johnson and Jill Stein get? You seem to be blaming the people that want a third way for not ending the two-party duopoly when, in reality, the two parties have enacted sufficient obstructions to effectively protect themselves from any viable competition.



You are right...it is difficult to get elected President so there us no reason to run for school board....better to just whine and be a victim because Sanders and Paul failed to become president
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