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This is a very smart move by LA ...
Posted on 5/13/17 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 5/13/17 at 12:47 pm
No public defender = plead guilty, save money.
Louisiana Can’t Afford to Pay for Public Defenders, So Inmates Are Pleading Guilty
https://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/12/louisiana-can-t-afford-to-pay-for-jailhouse-lawyers-so-inmates-are-pleading-guilty
No, seriously ... great idea.
Louisiana Can’t Afford to Pay for Public Defenders, So Inmates Are Pleading Guilty
https://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/12/louisiana-can-t-afford-to-pay-for-jailhouse-lawyers-so-inmates-are-pleading-guilty
No, seriously ... great idea.
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 12:49 pm to scrooster
Is this where small government conservatives will shite all over the constitution
Posted on 5/13/17 at 1:02 pm to NIH
No this is where I say, what the frick LA? How the hell do you let your public defender system collapse? Did you think it wouldn't paint a giant bulleye on your chest?
Posted on 5/13/17 at 1:14 pm to scrooster
Sad
Everyone should have the right to counsel
Everyone should have the right to counsel
Posted on 5/13/17 at 1:16 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
The sheriffs and DA lobbies here are very powerful. DAs want higher conviction rates and people in their PTD & probation systems for money and sheriffs want bodies in the jails for extra funding. Criminal justice reform here is hard because the average voter is a retard who doesn't understand that this kind of system costs us more money in the long run.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 1:16 pm to NIH
Jesus, I don't know if a $200 lawyer is any better than defending yourself.
Can the Louisiana bar step in and encourage more pro bono to stave off the collapse?
Can the Louisiana bar step in and encourage more pro bono to stave off the collapse?
Posted on 5/13/17 at 1:17 pm to scrooster
This isn't a new problem. Having a Louisiana public pretender isn't a big step up from having no lawyer at all. Its been that way all my life.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 1:18 pm to scrooster
The governor should walk around everywhere in a military uniform festooned with medals and ribbons so Louisiana can truly embrace its banana republic identity.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 1:19 pm to scrooster
Good. I just hope they aren't giving the criminals reduced sentences if they plead guilty
Posted on 5/13/17 at 1:23 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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How the hell do you let your public defender system collapse?
State District Judges don't have the balls to draft lawyers into service to cover the gaps - just IMHO.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 1:31 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Can the Louisiana bar step in and encourage more pro bono to stave off the collapse?
You would want a tax lawyer or probate lawyer who hasn't looked at the criminal code in decades defending life felonies? Lol at this board
Posted on 5/13/17 at 1:36 pm to theronswanson
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You would want a tax lawyer or probate lawyer who hasn't looked at the criminal code in decades defending life felonies? Lol at this board
If they put forth an effort on behalf of the accused it would be a great improvement. The vultures who make a living off those indigent cases do nothing on their behalf.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 1:49 pm to el Gaucho
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I just hope they aren't giving the criminals reduced sentences if they plead guilty
Thats exactly what is happening, sweetheart deal keeps the complaints and appeals down.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 2:02 pm to NIH
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small government conservatives will shite all over the constitution
Small government has money to pay for public defenders.
This post was edited on 5/13/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 5/13/17 at 2:06 pm to theronswanson
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You would want a tax lawyer or probate lawyer who hasn't looked at the criminal code in decades defending life felonies? Lol at this board
What the frick are you taking about? I said nothing about specialities.
Can the bar not encourage criminal defense attorneys to perform more pro bono?
Posted on 5/13/17 at 2:10 pm to Lsuchs
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Small government has money to pay for public defendants.
In small government, the DA and the public defender are funded from the same pool of money. They are given equal, dedicated resources.
DA's nor police should receive any revenue from tickets or asset forfeiture.
Workers at crime labs who purposefully yield fraudulent results should suffer the same sentence that was imposed on anyone wrongfully incarcerated due to those fraudulent results.
Assets can only seized with a formal criminal charge, they must be connected to that charge, and in the event charges are dropped or a not-guilty verdict is reached, they must be returned to the person, or persons, from which they were seized immediately and without any further proceedings. People who had their assets seized should not have to then sue to get their stuff back after already having to fight to be exonerated.
If we still have to ticket and have asset forfeiture at all, that money should go into funding roads and only roads.
This post was edited on 5/13/17 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 5/13/17 at 2:10 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Can the bar not encourage criminal defense attorneys to perform more pro bono?
Do you work for free? I dont
Posted on 5/13/17 at 2:10 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Can the bar not encourage criminal defense attorneys to perform more pro bono?
They already have a set number of hours that every attorney has to perform pro bono.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 2:19 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Can the bar not encourage criminal defense attorneys to perform more pro bono?
The bar can encourage whatever they want. Do you think defending a case is just showing up for trial? You need to spend money on investigators, sometimes expert witnesses, etc. Not to mention criminal defendants are notorious for filing bar complaints. So essentially ask them to lose money because the state of Louisiana will not comply with the Constitution??
Posted on 5/13/17 at 2:24 pm to scrooster
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Louisiana Can’t Afford to Pay for Public Defenders
Geez.
I didn't realize Louisiana was that bad off.
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