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re: The Vice footage of the Charlottesville protest
Posted on 8/17/17 at 12:57 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 8/17/17 at 12:57 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I think they're worse in the sense that they were so willing to show their faces and be recorded. That implies to me that they think they are in some kind of silent majority position.
My God. Were you a university professor at a community college when you retired?
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 12:57 pm to Big Scrub TX
They are self-described Nazis. It follows that it would be "outwardly despicable" .
Posted on 8/17/17 at 12:58 pm to Lsupimp
quote:Wasn't Spencer there sort of leading it? He's a self-described Nazi?
They are self-described Nazis. It follows that it would be "outwardly despicable" .
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:00 pm to makinskrilla
quote:I'm sure some are.
The alt right is anti-Semitic.
Anti-Semitism knows know party lines.
But, Stephen Miller is Jewish......and they call him alt-right.........and he's not the only one. So. There's that.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:00 pm to Big Scrub TX
Spencer is a white nationalist. Not a nazi by the traditional definition but those don't seem to mean much anymore.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:01 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:yeah and you can see libs getting closer and closer as he peacefully address some mics. one guy comes up and implies he should be arrested. another comes up and swings at him. Spencer gets behind a police line of protection before the swam of angry libs got to him.
Wasn't Spencer there sort of leading it?
pretty pathetic. i mean, that guy is a piece of shite, but he wasn't doing anything but explain why he thought it was criminal to cancel the march.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:04 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Wasn't Spencer there sort of leading it? He's a self-described Nazi?
Not everyone there was a Nazi or a member of the KKK.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:10 pm to Big Scrub TX
I don't know who that is other than seeing his name here.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:12 pm to Tiguar
VICE are amazing propagandists who occasionally do real journalism
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:12 pm to Tiguar
quote:Did you see any objections Spencer made to the Nazis' message that night?
Spencer is a white nationalist. Not a nazi by the traditional definition but those don't seem to mean much anymore.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:14 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Did you see any objections Spencer made to the Nazis' message that night?
This is such an interesting theoretical "standard" the left likes to routinely apply.
I mean, they never apply this same standard to themselves. EVER. But yeah, it's a "standard".
If someone says something bad that might be connected in some way with voting in your party.....thou shalt denounce it or you agree with them!!..........well. As long as you're Republican.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:15 pm to Big Scrub TX
No, but people on the left don't disagree with a lot of what ANTIFA says, either.
Doesn't make them communists.
Doesn't make them communists.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:17 pm to Big Scrub TX
Falling for propaganda from (((vice)))
actually watching (((vice)))
Why don't you actually watch one of the million recorded live streams on youtube from the march. fricking hell.
actually watching (((vice)))
Why don't you actually watch one of the million recorded live streams on youtube from the march. fricking hell.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:17 pm to ShortyRob
quote:I'm not sure what this means. Richard Spencer is a fairly mainstream figure - supposedly advancing a rational vision of rejecting white guilt. FWIW, I don't find that message inherently troubling or offensive. But I'm not sure what to make of it when he shows up at a Nazi rally, essentially to be on their side. I suspect he's FOS, but I'm trying to find an alternate explanation. But yes, when you show up as the most prominent person of a movement to join in protest with a bunch of Nazis, I do expect some sort of distancing or denouncement if you are to retain any credibility.
This is such an interesting theoretical "standard" the left likes to routinely apply.
I mean, they never apply this same standard to themselves. EVER. But yeah, it's a "standard".
If someone says something bad that might be connected in some way with voting in your party.....thou shalt denounce it or you agree with them!!..........well. As long as you're Republican.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:18 pm to Tiguar
quote:As bad as communism is, that doesn't make it the same as Nazi-ism.
No, but people on the left don't disagree with a lot of what ANTIFA says, either.
Doesn't make them communists.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:18 pm to SirWinston
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VICE are amazing propagandists who occasionally do real journalism
They haven't done real journalism since Gavin McInnes left
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:18 pm to bucknut
vice also still has a bit of "bipartisan" street cred from their original founders, who reported from both the left and right.
since the buyout they've been far far left exclusively.
since the buyout they've been far far left exclusively.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:19 pm to Big Scrub TX
It's all the same to me. Both responsible for genocide and oppression. One is still oppressing people today.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:23 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:And?
I'm not sure what this means. Richard Spencer is a fairly mainstream figure - supposedly advancing a rational vision of rejecting white guilt.
quote:I'm not sure what to make of it when Al Sharpton never personally rebuked the "Dead Cops" chanters for participating in his event............or, for that matter, any of the other liberals in that event.
But I'm not sure what to make of it when he shows up at a Nazi rally, essentially to be on their side
They must have all wanted dead cops.
I at least expect some kind of distancing if they want any sort of credibility.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:23 pm to bucknut
quote:
Why don't you actually watch one of the million recorded live streams on youtube from the march. fricking hell.
Because there's no confirmation bias in that.
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