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re: The US army may owe bergdahl over 200,000 dollars

Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:24 pm to
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Without a confession, or other overt acts indicating intent to remain away permanently, like burning his uniform, there is no evidence of desertion.

Should he be charged with desertion the burden of proof is on Bergdahl to prove he intended to return.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:25 pm to
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Death because of desertion is only during a time of war. America is not at war.


Someone should tell those guys over there to stop shooting at our soldiers then
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:46 pm to
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Desertion requires proof of intent to remain away permanently.


You don't know what the frick your talking about. If he is charged with desertion the burden of proof is on the pussy to prove he is innocent not the military to prove his guilt. In a military court you are guilty until proven innocent.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:51 pm to
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If he is charged with desertion the burden of proof is on the pussy to prove he is innocent not the military to prove his guilt. In a military court you are guilty until proven innocent.

That is correct as I read Article 85.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:55 pm to
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Death because of desertion is only during a time of war. America is not at war.

Is this for real? On the one hand we have the Democrat shills saying he's a prisoner of war, then one come back and says he doesn't fit the definition for desertion execution because... get this... We're not at war.

These Democrat talking points are serious insults to anyone with an inkling of intelligence. But hey, the liberals drove education in the shitter for this very reason, to dupe the masses. It's a-workin', too.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72065 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:56 pm to
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In his 5 years, he has never been classified as this, except by a few idiots in the White House. Defense dept doesn't recognize him as such, and that's who counts. It would be a new designation if it happens....
FYI, they haven't classified individuals as "Prisoners of War" in years.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34653 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:56 pm to
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Death because of desertion is only during a time of war. America is not at war.


And Korea was a 'Police Action".
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 6:31 pm to
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He might be eligible for POW status and the benefits that accompany it.


Even if he declared himself a mujahid? That's actually treasonous, I'd assume.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 6:39 pm to
No one has been executed for desertion since WWII. And from what I've read it was extremely rare even then. Bergdahl will not be executed. I wish he were, but it's not going to happen. At best he'll be court martialed, receive a dishonorable discharge, and forfeiture of all pay and benefits he may have received or is due to receive.

That's if the administration allows the DOD to charge him. Likely what will happen is that Bergdahl will receive his back pay and be told to move along with his life quietly so this story will just go away or he will have to face charges.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 7:11 pm to
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Desertion requires proof of intent to remain away permanently.


false
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34907 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 7:18 pm to
Can the families that lost loved ones looking for Bergdahl...sue for negligent death? I hope every body that can, does everything they can to make this guy and his family pay dearly for their disservice the them that lay their lives on the line.

Obama sucks. Period. I'm done.

Go Rajun Cajuns!
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 7:20 pm to
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Can the families that lost loved ones looking for Bergdahl...sue for negligent death?


No. That's a terrible idea and would set the worst precedent imaginable for our military.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62431 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 7:25 pm to
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FYI, they haven't classified individuals as "Prisoners of War" in years.


Well, yeah, thats what I'm trying to confer to ole spidey, who thinks he's a POW...
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34653 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 7:27 pm to
GT23, my point was that technically, Korea wasn't a declared 'war', either. We may not have declared war, but our guys are sure as hell in combat.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 7:29 pm to
I understand your point and I agree with you. I was just replying to the last post because I'm lazy. "Declared War" has absolutely zero to do with his status as a deserter.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 7:30 pm to
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Desertion requires proof of intent to remain away permanently.




Listen to the keyboard warrior give advice about the military. GTFO troll.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 7:31 pm to
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GTFO troll.


He did. He's been destroyed on this exact subject twice in one afternoon. He probably went back to his leftist websites to let them know that their talking points are complete horseshite and that he needs new material before he shows his face again.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29266 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 7:36 pm to
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He probably went back to his leftist websites to let them know that their talking points are complete horse shite


nah, he honestly believes he's right, even though he's been proven wrong many times.

once again, liberals are shown to be complete morons when it comes to anything military related.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20413 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 7:45 pm to
not when you quit your job!!
WTF
shite thread
Posted by Pathfinder
Washington D.C.
Member since Aug 2013
38 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:18 pm to
According to the Universal Code of Military Justice, desertion during a time of war is punishable by death.
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