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The Sexual Assault Survivors Who Believe Brett Kavanaugh Over Christine Blasey Ford
Posted on 9/29/18 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 9/29/18 at 5:17 pm
Interesting
daily beast via msn
quote:
“It feels mistaken identity to me,” said Sonia Souza, a San Diego resident who said she experienced in her past something “slightly less serious” than the attack Ford described. “I haven’t seen these pictures, but I hear there are a couple people who look like [Kavanaugh] … It’s definitely open to misidentification.”
Souza was also struck by a specific detail in Ford’s account: that several years later, she had spotted the man who allegedly helped Kavanaugh attack her–and she waved at him.
“I was like, “What? Why would you say hi to him?’” Souza said, citing her own experience as a survivor of sexual misconduct.
daily beast via msn
Posted on 9/29/18 at 5:20 pm to Eskimo_Breaux
quote:Evidently nothing in the history of the world is as serious as what happened to Ford.
Slightly less serious?
This post was edited on 9/29/18 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 9/29/18 at 5:21 pm to L.A.
I remember seeing on TV a few months ago a guy convicted of murdering his mother-in-law on nothing more than his niece's eyewitness testimony. Was later found innocent through DNA iirc.
If you can be misidentified by someone in your own family it's got to be pretty common I would think.
If you can be misidentified by someone in your own family it's got to be pretty common I would think.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 5:24 pm to L.A.
I think we are misusing and overusing the term “survivors.” It’s way over the top to call someone who was allegedly the victim of (at the very worst) a clumsy teenage groping, a survivor..........even if she did manage to make it out alive.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 5:34 pm to HonoraryCoonass
Apparently you can’t have an opinion on victims and survivors if you’re not a victim, survivor, or libtard.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 5:35 pm to Cornbeef
quote:
If you can be misidentified by someone in your own family it's got to be pretty common I would think.
VERY common. I CANNOT state this enough, mistaken identity / counterfactual thinking is extremely common in cases like these where such time passes. Its even more likely to insert someone who holds influence or is "famous" in any way if the subject has known the individual in the past.
I ask anyone here that grew up with anyone "famous" - especially who went to high school with them - to imagine a party you were at during the time you knew this famous person. Do you see this person blending into the background attending the party? Or maybe they're the life of the party and everyone is hanging around them?
Our brains will insert people and places we associate with certain times in our lives completely unbeknownst to you, whether the inserted is simply background fodder or the main part of the memory. It happens all the time, and I wholeheartedly believe this is the case here and have thought such from the beginning.
Ford is not lying or completely making up the accusation because SHE believes it at this point. Being questioned on these memories often helps to solidify the "lie" your brain is telling you.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 5:57 pm to L.A.
Sometime between 1989 and 1990 I was a young airman (19-20 years old) at an Air Force Base in the UK. I went out drinking at the Enlisted Club one night and drank way too much. A guy who worked in the Logistics Squadron offered to walk me home. I agreed; I was young, naive and inebriated. I had no idea I would be sexually assaulted that night.
It was not a violent encounter, but this man took advantage of my state and undressed me then had sex with me. After it was over, he got dressed, put a blanket over me and left. I woke up the next morning and reflected on what happened. I didn't report it because there were no witnesses and frankly, I was shocked and ashamed.
Although I don't remember his name, I remember many of the details from that night. The encounter didn't scar me for life; it was a turning point.
That night taught me a lot, and it opened my eyes to the world. I learned to avoid that guy at all costs and if I saw him buying other girls drink I would give them a warning. I also changed by behaviors to avoid getting myself into that situation. That one encounter did not ruin my life. I am now 49, strong, independent, and can smell a rat from a mile away.
Women on the left one minute are "empowered and strong and don't need any man" and the next minute they are "victims of scummy men and should be coddled". You can't have it both ways - you're either strong and equal to your male counterparts OR you're a helpless victim who isn't responsible for any of your choices and must be guided through life. YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
I do not believe Ms Ford; her emotions were fake as hell and she went from trying to impress people with her vocabulary to acting like a dumb bitch. Judge Kavanaugh's emotions were raw and rung true. I do not believe he had anything to do with this. I pray for him and his family daily.
I know TL; DR....but I really hope you did.
It was not a violent encounter, but this man took advantage of my state and undressed me then had sex with me. After it was over, he got dressed, put a blanket over me and left. I woke up the next morning and reflected on what happened. I didn't report it because there were no witnesses and frankly, I was shocked and ashamed.
Although I don't remember his name, I remember many of the details from that night. The encounter didn't scar me for life; it was a turning point.
That night taught me a lot, and it opened my eyes to the world. I learned to avoid that guy at all costs and if I saw him buying other girls drink I would give them a warning. I also changed by behaviors to avoid getting myself into that situation. That one encounter did not ruin my life. I am now 49, strong, independent, and can smell a rat from a mile away.
Women on the left one minute are "empowered and strong and don't need any man" and the next minute they are "victims of scummy men and should be coddled". You can't have it both ways - you're either strong and equal to your male counterparts OR you're a helpless victim who isn't responsible for any of your choices and must be guided through life. YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
I do not believe Ms Ford; her emotions were fake as hell and she went from trying to impress people with her vocabulary to acting like a dumb bitch. Judge Kavanaugh's emotions were raw and rung true. I do not believe he had anything to do with this. I pray for him and his family daily.
I know TL; DR....but I really hope you did.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 7:02 pm to PanhandleTigah
Thank you for sharing this. My wife has been in a blue fury at so many of her fellow women for the current attitude that telling women to use common sense equals victim-blaming. She also hates the word “empowered.”
Once again, thank you.
Once again, thank you.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 7:04 pm to Squid
quote:Your wife sounds a lot like me. I am beyond livid! You're very welcome. Tell her there are a lot of us out there.
Thank you for sharing this. My wife has been in a blue fury at so many of her fellow women for the current attitude that telling women to use common sense equals victim-blaming. She also hates the word “empowered.”
Once again, thank you.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 7:09 pm to PanhandleTigah
quote:
I know TL; DR
Actually that’s one of the better things I’ve read on here in 12 years.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 7:19 pm to St Augustine
quote:Thank you! And I still like Beer.
Actually that’s one of the better things I’ve read on here in 12 years
Posted on 9/29/18 at 7:48 pm to PanhandleTigah
quote:Wow, there is a lifetime of wisdom in that post. I hope everyone on here reads it. Thank you so much for sharing your story and your wisdom.
Sometime between 1989 and 1990 I was a young airman (19-20 years old) at an Air Force Base in the UK. I went out drinking at the Enlisted Club one night and drank way too much. A guy who worked in the Logistics Squadron offered to walk me home. I agreed; I was young, naive and inebriated. I had no idea I would be sexually assaulted that night.
It was not a violent encounter, but this man took advantage of my state and undressed me then had sex with me. After it was over, he got dressed, put a blanket over me and left. I woke up the next morning and reflected on what happened. I didn't report it because there were no witnesses and frankly, I was shocked and ashamed.
Although I don't remember his name, I remember many of the details from that night. The encounter didn't scar me for life; it was a turning point.
That night taught me a lot, and it opened my eyes to the world. I learned to avoid that guy at all costs and if I saw him buying other girls drink I would give them a warning. I also changed by behaviors to avoid getting myself into that situation. That one encounter did not ruin my life. I am now 49, strong, independent, and can smell a rat from a mile away.
Women on the left one minute are "empowered and strong and don't need any man" and the next minute they are "victims of scummy men and should be coddled". You can't have it both ways - you're either strong and equal to your male counterparts OR you're a helpless victim who isn't responsible for any of your choices and must be guided through life. YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
I do not believe Ms Ford; her emotions were fake as hell and she went from trying to impress people with her vocabulary to acting like a dumb bitch. Judge Kavanaugh's emotions were raw and rung true. I do not believe he had anything to do with this. I pray for him and his family daily.
I know TL; DR....but I really hope you did.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 7:55 pm to PanhandleTigah
Amen.
Thanks for your honesty.
I know how you feel.
Thanks for your honesty.
I know how you feel.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 7:57 pm to PanhandleTigah
I read, Pan, and thank you for sharing.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 8:02 pm to LSUGrrrl
Thanks everyone! The whole situation just made me angry and I have lashed out at people on this board for a couple days. I decided to write that post so people would understand where I was coming from.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 8:04 pm to L.A.
There are a lot of survivors who feel silenced by the MeToo movement; they feel that by elevating the suffering of some, it diminishes the suffering of others. Imagine being a man and wanting to explain this to a woman. It’s the exact same as rape, honestly. #MeToo
Posted on 9/29/18 at 8:23 pm to RazorBroncs
Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 8:28 pm to VOR
quote:Especially when the eyewitnesses weren’t even there....
Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 8:32 pm to VOR
quote:
Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
I guess that's why they're never used in court???
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