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re: The Republican Party needs a good Purge
Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:19 pm to tiderider
Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:19 pm to tiderider
Hey i actually dont have a problem with the ones that come to work even though it doesn't do much for our economy . I do however laugh when libs try to make the case that since this country was built by immigrants we are being hypocritical opposing illegal immigration
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:24 pm to RedRifle
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RedRifle
Still waiting for the evidence that conservative Christians represent the ills of the Republican Party. Considering how much damage they have done, should be quite simple for you.
ETA: In order to make this simple for you, you have made an assertion. Demonstrate linkages/cause and effect. In other words. argue your point. Or become a Democrat and simply spout half truths that sound good.
#waroncountryclubrepublicans
ETA2: Do something like Sentrius did. Only go a step further and demonstrate that if we remove religion from the Republican Party show how we can differentiate from the Democratic Party in winning young voters (e.g. fiscal conservatism - something hard to do with the young who have little understanding about the realities of life).
Enough coaching - make an argument.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:25 pm to tiderider
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immigrants don't come here because of the freakin welfare state ... get out a little before commenting on immigrants ... we need to control the border, stop illegals, etc, but they do not come here for the free welfare benefits ... they don't get them and probably wouldn't want them even if they could ... i've lived in houston 20 years and have seen one immigrant ... literally, ONE PERSON ... begging for something other than work ... corporations get far more "welfare" benefits than the illegals that come here ...
Immigrants don't, but the people whose jobs they are taking damn sure do. And you have to think long term. Are the children and grandchildren of immigrants going to be of the same work ethic mindset as themselves? Or will they be like ours - educated and on unemployment, seeking more and more socialized government? Will we have jobs for these future citizens, or does the trend more favor stagnant job growth? Once they're here, they're ours. Yet I'm sure most wouldn't favor letting the whole world come in, no matter their compassion level.
So I assume the OP thinks the deficit is no biggie, right? Hope he has a better understanding of economics than I do.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:26 pm to Sentrius
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The demographics and trends are changing away from what the GOP could reliably win elections on like in 2004. Young People are becoming less and less religious and more scientifically minded and completely disagree with their view of morality.
Spot on.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:29 pm to RedRifle
The Republicans would never win another election, ever
Do you know how long the Democrats held the House and Senate when social conservatives voted Dem?
54 years in the House, 40 years in the Senate. They also won 8 presedential elections. And Eisenhower only won because he was a war hero, not because of liberal Rep philosophy
Its ill informed morons like you that have killed the Rep party
Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:30 pm to RedRifle
As long as you're not suggesting that Boehner, Hatch, McConnell, et al don't need to be purged, I'm in full agreement. 
Posted on 7/20/14 at 5:41 am to SoulGlo
Views such as this is what keeps electing Democrats.
Ronald Reagan had it right and you so called Establishment Republicans have forgotten his 11th Commandment.
If you are so unhappy, purge yourself over to the Democrats. The Karl Rove wing of the GOP has not done so well with the tactics they have used, expending money and energy on internal fighting instead of going after Dems.
Ronald Reagan had it right and you so called Establishment Republicans have forgotten his 11th Commandment.
If you are so unhappy, purge yourself over to the Democrats. The Karl Rove wing of the GOP has not done so well with the tactics they have used, expending money and energy on internal fighting instead of going after Dems.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 6:02 am to antibarner
Positions taken by social Christians that are in contrast to mainstream public opinion.
* Oppose Gay Marriage
* Oppose Abortion
* Oppose Marijuana Legalization
And can someone tell me one thing the Republicans have done for small business lately? Why haven't we worked to repeal NAFTA? Why haven't we put heavy tariffs on China?
* Oppose Gay Marriage
* Oppose Abortion
* Oppose Marijuana Legalization
And can someone tell me one thing the Republicans have done for small business lately? Why haven't we worked to repeal NAFTA? Why haven't we put heavy tariffs on China?
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 6:04 am
Posted on 7/20/14 at 6:21 am to RedRifle
RedRifle, I think the Republican party needs a good purging of the Old White Establishment Republicans.. Just pick any of them who have been there for 20 plus years. Look what they did in Mississippi recently to the Tea Party Candidate,-
that was corrupt and embarrassing.
We need term limits.
But, let's be clear, Democrats and the Liberal media make social issues a problem for the rest of us not the other way around. They push and push and push...expecting the rest of the world just go with it because it's about "Equality"?
As a Christian I find myself conflicted with Freedom First versus God First on Political issues. You know what I mean by that?
At the end of the day,social issues are dividing the country...in Politics, it shouldn't be that way, because it should be much more jobs, national security, the economy and education type subjects. Meanwhile 1.7% of the population are essentially hijacking our political theater..
Therefor, I think your angst should be that of the Democrats because they are doing more harm that good to America. Otherwise, we wouldn't need to Purge the Republican party now would we?-Because if we're going in the right direction, then one would want the Republicans to continue losing elections
that was corrupt and embarrassing.
We need term limits.
But, let's be clear, Democrats and the Liberal media make social issues a problem for the rest of us not the other way around. They push and push and push...expecting the rest of the world just go with it because it's about "Equality"?
As a Christian I find myself conflicted with Freedom First versus God First on Political issues. You know what I mean by that?
At the end of the day,social issues are dividing the country...in Politics, it shouldn't be that way, because it should be much more jobs, national security, the economy and education type subjects. Meanwhile 1.7% of the population are essentially hijacking our political theater..
Therefor, I think your angst should be that of the Democrats because they are doing more harm that good to America. Otherwise, we wouldn't need to Purge the Republican party now would we?-Because if we're going in the right direction, then one would want the Republicans to continue losing elections
Posted on 7/20/14 at 6:21 am to BobRoss
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And can someone tell me one thing the Republicans have done for small business lately? Why haven't we worked to repeal NAFTA? Why haven't we put heavy tariffs on China?
Ask Harry Reid
Posted on 7/20/14 at 6:24 am to BobRoss
So basically we so called Social Christians just need to renounce our beliefs to make you happy? And who says what mainstream opinion actually is, the media? We can sure trust them to tell us how to win elections.
The abortion issue is polarizing, true, but my side is slowly winning the debate. More people are pro life than ever before. And most Tea Party type candidates want that issue left to the states.
If people told the truth about gay marriage, I would bet the house more are actually against it than for it. People do not respect gays, but do not wish to be called some name or branded a bigot. Minorities are VERY anti gay.
I am personally against Marijuana, but I am also a realist. Prohibition does not work. I say legalize it, tax it and try to keep it away from the kids. All the while continue to debate the issue and try to sway opinion.
You Rovites do not have such a good record lately, especially in Presidential elections. You can tell us how wrong we are, but when push comes to shove you lose, again and again. The Milquetoast approach to campaigning is a loser, and running not to offend anyone so maybe you can attract the so called moderates is just crap.
The abortion issue is polarizing, true, but my side is slowly winning the debate. More people are pro life than ever before. And most Tea Party type candidates want that issue left to the states.
If people told the truth about gay marriage, I would bet the house more are actually against it than for it. People do not respect gays, but do not wish to be called some name or branded a bigot. Minorities are VERY anti gay.
I am personally against Marijuana, but I am also a realist. Prohibition does not work. I say legalize it, tax it and try to keep it away from the kids. All the while continue to debate the issue and try to sway opinion.
You Rovites do not have such a good record lately, especially in Presidential elections. You can tell us how wrong we are, but when push comes to shove you lose, again and again. The Milquetoast approach to campaigning is a loser, and running not to offend anyone so maybe you can attract the so called moderates is just crap.
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 6:31 am
Posted on 7/20/14 at 7:21 am to RedRifle
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It's time to take the party back from these social conservative "Christians" who have held the party hostage for the last 20 years or so
One of the most ill-informed dumbest posts on here in a while.
Get rid of the Christian vote in the GOP and you give pelosi & hairy weed super majorities in BOTH the US House & Senate.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 7:25 am to RedRifle
China is not the enemy? Better tell that to China.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 7:47 am to prplhze2000
If I were in charge Red would go first.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:07 am to RedRifle
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Country Club republicans unite. It's time to take the party back from these social conservative "Christians" who have held the party hostage for the last 20 years or so. These people are a walking contradiction. They claim to be for smaller government but want to use the government to legislate their brand of morality. They're trigger happy and would get us in a dozen wars if possible and have zero understanding of new era global politics, yet they bitch about the deficit. News flash: China is not the enemy.
It's always amusing when a person spouts cliches, untruths or propaganda that he's heard on some radio program and then pretends he has some original tought or is having an epiphany.
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 9:08 am
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:29 am to RedRifle
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They claim to be for smaller government but want to use the government to legislate their brand of morality.
Can you name any examples besides gay marriage? No blue laws written in the 20s either.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:41 am to Wolfhound45
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Enough coaching - make an argument.
I think this dude quickly realized he diverged from his intellectual comfort zone once his talking points were used up.
Even if you could implement this strategy it would be utterly dumb. I would find it amusing though, once athiests on the right realized how incredibly small their voting block actually is.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 10:42 am to bamafan1001
Yep, I think some people are not really thinking this through.
You 'purge' the Christian voters out of the GOP, the country is going to have moonbat crazy loons like shelia lee jackson & maxine waters as Speaker of the House and in charge of powerful committees.
You 'purge' the Christian voters out of the GOP, the country is going to have moonbat crazy loons like shelia lee jackson & maxine waters as Speaker of the House and in charge of powerful committees.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 10:51 am to RedRifle
Christians as a whole arent the problem as many are able to separate their religion and their politics. The problem is that there is a fairly large subset within christianity that believes the state should in some manner reflect and enforce their religious values. This problem is amplified by the fact that those people are often the loudest.
The numbers are undeniable, the average voter in America is slightly right of center and are completely disillusioned with the democratic party. The problem is that the republican party has turned into a caricature that is so easily attacked by the liberals that people still vote democrat. It doesnt matter how much the other party sucks when your party's candidates are throwing support behind "pray the gay away".
Certainly the conservative christian segment isnt the party's only issue, but it is a very serious issue. Even if it takes losing several more elections, the party must distance itself from these types if they hope to attract a younger generation of voter. Otherwise, the party will effectively die with the baby boomers.
The numbers are undeniable, the average voter in America is slightly right of center and are completely disillusioned with the democratic party. The problem is that the republican party has turned into a caricature that is so easily attacked by the liberals that people still vote democrat. It doesnt matter how much the other party sucks when your party's candidates are throwing support behind "pray the gay away".
Certainly the conservative christian segment isnt the party's only issue, but it is a very serious issue. Even if it takes losing several more elections, the party must distance itself from these types if they hope to attract a younger generation of voter. Otherwise, the party will effectively die with the baby boomers.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 10:52 am to RedRifle
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their interpretation of the bible (Old Testament) are he problem. And there are a ton of you.
Christian's call those who interpret the Bible only by the Old Testament, Jews. Jews vote overwhelmingly Democratic so yes that is a problem.
What Old Testament based laws or policies are you speaking of?
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